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View Poll Results: Where is Osama?
In heaven with Allah and his virgins 1 2.56%
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:50 PM
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Re: Is Bin Laden in a burnin hell?

Well nothing from Prax so maybe he was aware it would take this direction?

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That is speaking in terms of BODIES ALONE. All scripture must gel and flow together. The bible speaks of a resurrection of damnation and of the unjust. The same principle applies with what sleeps. THE BODY sleeps from God's perspective.
What would be the point if its talking about just dead bodies? It says they LIVED at the resurrection. So do bodies have a life apart from souls? The person in your view would already have been alive.

So in context that would be like "and their dead bodies lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years". Which fits the context? That? Or THEY meaning the persons lived and reigned with Christ.

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Not the soul, otherwise Paul was wrong in saying absence from body is presence with Lord. If Paul said absence from the body meant presence with the Lord there is no soul sleep.
Paul did not imply what you think he meant by that. Read this for clarification.

http://www.freeforum101.com/inthelig...rum=inthelight

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I already said more than once that death is not non-existence.
But can we allow Gods word to give us the definition of death?

146:2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being.
146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. Psalms 146:2-4

According to scripture live is having BEING. According to scripture death is the loss of the sense of BEING. The day he DIES what happens?

HIS THOUGHTS PERISH.

The dead no longer have any consciousness of BEING.

Now you can understand what death means to a person according to scripture.

Will you now say that THE BODY loses its sense of being? As if the body has its own independent sense of awareness and being?

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So, again, what place does hell fire have in your view? How can hell be merely the grave if it has fire and if hell (with its fire) is thrown into the lake of fire?
Gehenna Fire is a reality for the resurrected dead. First understand the foundation truth concerning life, death, and Hades/Sheol then you will know what it means when Hades is emptied out into the Gehenna Fire.

What is in Sheol/Hades?

49:14 Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling.
49:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah. Psalms 45:14-15

The word "grave" appears 3 times in these 2 verses. Each time it is the Hebrew "Sheol". It is a place where animals like it says SHEEP go when they die the same as men. It is the common grave of all that die.

It is the place that even the righteous dead still go at death.

Thats why Jesus said the gates of Hades would not prevail against them. Why? Because he will raise them up at the last day.
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