Is God in control?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I have no struggle!

Can you answer the question about the daycare shooting?

It's the same answer I've given so far.....free will. Innocents suffer. The guilty go free. God doesn't micromanage His creation.

That's the system.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by seekerman

It's the same answer I've given so far.....free will. Innocents suffer. The guilty go free. God doesn't micromanage His creation.

That's the system.

Did the individual commit an evil act?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Did the individual commit an evil act?

Define "evil".

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Define "evil".

There is no need to. Everyone understands what I mean, including you. Please answer the question.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Timmy

There is no need to. Everyone understands what I mean, including you. Please answer the question.

Just wanted to see what you personally believed evil was.

But, to continue the discussion, yes the act was evil.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Just wanted to see what you personally believed evil was.

But, to continue the discussion, yes the act was evil.

This just in. New details have come to light in the case of the daycare shooting. The identity of the shooter has been established. It was God.

Sticking with your answer?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Timmy

This just in. New details have come to light in the case of the daycare shooting. The identity of the shooter has been established. It was God.

Sticking with your answer?

Lol.....now how did I know there was another piece to the story?

You see, there was information withheld or unknown before. The assumption was made that an individual committed the crime, but upon further investigation, it was not a creation of God which killed the children but God Himself. That's a huge difference.

You see, God is God and can do things because of a greater understanding of His system. An individual doing that would be committing an evil act, but God isn't an individual.

As I've said before, you have a problem with God's system. Many do.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Lol.....now how did I know there was another piece to the story?

You see, there was information withheld or unknown before. The assumption was made that an individual committed the crime, but upon further investigation, it was not a creation of God which killed the children but God Himself. That's a huge difference.

You see, God is God and can do things because of a greater understanding of His system. An individual doing that would be committing an evil act, but God isn't an individual.

So when people say God is good, it's an utterly meaningless statement. OK.

As I've said before, you have a problem with God's system. Many do.

I have a huge problem with what people say is God's system. And I think they are wrong.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Timmy

So when people say God is good, it's an utterly meaningless statement. OK.

God is good. It's people who in their free will produce pain and suffering on mankind.

I have a huge problem with what people say is God's system. And I think they are wrong.

What do you think God's system is? Personally.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by seekerman

God is good. It's people who in their free will produce pain and suffering on mankind.

Oh? God has not produced pain or suffering on mankind? Really? Well, I have to agree with you. But I thought you believed the Bible!

What do you think God's system is? Personally.

It's a hands-off policy. I don't believe God ever intervenes in man's affairs, and never speaks to people.

Yes, that's deism. It's the only -ism that makes any sense at all, to me.