By the presentation of Mr. Chan, using the verses that say "our ways are not God's way" we are to understand that when we are compassionate and reject the traditional view of hell, it is because we can't comprehend God's ways.
However, if we understand that God will torture His creation then we are accurately comprehending God????
Since the devil and his fallen lot will end up in the lake of Fire along with death and hell, and the other sinners.
will the devil also be purified along with other sinners while there going through ( your version of Gods refining fire)? i am also gonna post the same thing in the other topic as well
By the presentation of Mr. Chan, using the verses that say "our ways are not God's way" we are to understand that when we are compassionate and reject the traditional view of hell, it is because we can't comprehend God's ways.
However, if we understand that God will torture His creation then we are accurately comprehending God????
You are trying top comprehend his ways by simply asking if one view is accurate or not. It's so circular. lol
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Since the devil and his fallen lot will end up in the lake of Fire along with death and hell, and the other sinners.
will the devil also be purified along with other sinners while there going through ( your version of Gods refining fire)? i am also gonna post the same thing in the other topic as well
I've answered this question a dozen or more times. I don't know, however God has the time and power, if it is His purpose to do so.
What would be more glorious than for God to bring all creatures to repentance and redemption???? Would you be upset if he chose to do so???
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
You are trying top comprehend his ways by simply asking if one view is accurate or not. It's so circular. lol
My rebuttal was very on point, and makes all kinds of logic and reasonable sense!
You tell me, are we more in line with who God really is, when we are compassionate and desiring all to be finally saved. Or when we see him as a tyrant, that will torment those that won't or cannot find the narrow path in a very short physical life? Don't say our ways are not His ways, when we are in line with what all Christianity declares is His character and nature, then turns around declares ED or annihilation. Does His mercy endure forever??? Does it Michael?
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Does it make sense that folks that weren't in the ark drowned in the flood ?
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Does it make sense that folks that weren't in the ark drowned in the flood ?
Temporal judgment, no relevence to the subject, no one argues that bad things happen in this phyiscal life.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Think of it as the "blue screen of death" and God needed to do a reboot.
terrible analogy, Noah preached to them for almost a 100 years, and everyone thought he was a quack.
infact its very interesting that in the book of enoch. It was the giants the nephile or whatever they were called was having these visions of the world getting submerged.
Enoch went to them and interpreted the visions for them to understand the comming judgment.
the the book of enoch isnt in the bible its a very old story which was passed down through the ages. Its missing parts and peices, but that part stood out.
God gave the world much time to join Noah, he has Given this world almost 2k years to Join Jesus.
But Jesus is the ark in the new covenant. and one day That grace will be shut off and the judgment will come, just like a flood to those who dont believe.
as the bible declares it will over take them like a thief in the night
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