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Old 06-04-2011, 08:35 PM
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Re: Are Infants Really Born Sinless?

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The tense is aorist and gives a historic picture. All have sinned. However we know that Jesus did NOT sin. Right?

And as has been said babies, being part of the human race, will eventually commit sin

But the question was already asked, what sins do babies commit? Lying? Adultery? Rob banks?

Praxeas,

No, Jesus never sinned, 1 Peter 2:22, "He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth."

You asked what sins do infants commit? I've read all your post, so please take mine carefully into consideration.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned


Notice, the scripture reads death entered the world through sin. Due to sin, death came to all men because of sin.

When we're born, we begin our journey to what ultimately will lead to death. While some die young and others at an elderly age, the death of a human being is due to the effect of sin.

Remember, "sin entered the world through one man" (through Adam's disobedience sin entered the world), and death through sin (because of sin, death entered the world), "and in this way death came to all men" (we inherited Adam's sin because we all will die).

After Adam's transgression, he died spiritually, and also began dying physically. Why do infants or adults die? Because we're born with sin that we inherited from Adam. How do we know that? Because sin brings death. A sinless body wouldn't die. Death is the effect of sin indwelling within our carnal bodies.

In the likeness of Adam's fallen nature, we inherited his sin because we're born spiritually dead (estranged from God) and we begin physically dying at birth.


It is impossible to be born sinless. We just can't convert from sinless at birth to becoming a sinner.

In regards to Psalm 51:5, "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me."

David, you, I, and the entire humanity have the Adamic sin nature at birth. Sin isn't something we learn to commit. Remember, Ephesians 2:3 talks about how we were by nature children of wrath? Before our conversion, by nature we were sinners.


Jesus said in Matt 15:18, But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man unclean.

We're sinners because we have the nature of sin (Adam's sin) already within us all. Our uncleanness/sin comes from within the heart, it's within us at birth, it isn't something that we learn later in life.

Sin is already rooted in our heart at birth. Remember, we were the children of wrath by nature? Nature comes automatically, it isn't learned.

Jeremiah 17:9 states,
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked......"

Yes, at birth we have a "deceitful, wicked sin infested heart." It's for that reason that God desires to give us a new heart, Ezekiel 36:26, "I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh....."

Job 25:4 reads, "..... How can one born of woman be pure?"

Did Jesus inherit the Adamic sinful nature? No.

Roman 8:3
For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,


Notice, Jesus came in the likeness of "sinful flesh." Jesus didn't receive the Adamic sinful nature, which comes naturally in all of humanity (Ephesians 2:3). Adam's sin is transfered through human father-ship. That's why Jesus was sinless, He received his physical nature from Mary, not man.

Death entered through sin. The fact the infants die is evidence that sin is present in their life.


So no, these babies didn't commit adultery or rob banks as you suggested, they inherited the Adamic sin.

Last edited by Jacob's Ladder; 06-04-2011 at 08:42 PM.
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