David Bernard´s book on oneness - Page 8

Praxeas · #71 07-08-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

thats pretty honest prax, now tell me what upci your at so we can revoke any license you have for the heresy you just preached!!!

pretty much was how i was showed the duel nature of christ communitcated with God.

though i seek for more seperation of son and father, and not just nature and modes and manifestations to quench my thirst.

But you have took on a new view. Me and my pastor will eventually take a look at Jason dulles work and probably my add 2 cents, i want to see how he views it since he is more a traditional oneness modalist with some monarchianism

First of all I think you aren't understanding my point. My view is still Oneness nor is believing that Jesus the man sometimes acted as God and sometimes as man essential to licensing

Second I am not a licensed minster of the UPC

The Father and Son are not separate. They are distinct

The Son (Jesus) does not go back and forth between acting as God and then as man. That is not a denial that He is both God and man. It's a matter of the kenosis I spoke of before. He willingly limited Himself to the Human attributes while possessing the Divine. They were at His disposal

acerrak · #72 07-08-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

First of all I think you aren't understanding my point. My view is still Oneness nor is believing that Jesus the man sometimes acted as God and sometimes as man essential to licensing

Second I am not a licensed minster of the UPC

The Father and Son are not separate. They are distinct

The Son (Jesus) does not go back and forth between acting as God and then as man. That is not a denial that He is both God and man. It's a matter of the kenosis I spoke of before. He willingly limited Himself to the Human attributes while possessing the Divine. They were at His disposal

ah that explains why your not liscensed, you have not conformed to their view yet and sign the affirmation..

also i know what you belive.

and yes the Son limited Himself. Though the father worked in the Son, The Son was his own person. 2 witnesses, not just human and a divine nature operating on one plain of exsistance

Sister Alvear · #73 07-08-2011, 01:14 PM

Acerrak do you believe what Joel Hemphill does? I seem to think that but could be wrong?

acerrak · #74 07-08-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Acerrak do you believe what Joel Hemphill does? I seem to think that but could be wrong?

i dont know the name, i would have to look it up. pretty much what i have come to, is because of my own studies.

I studied out of the trinity into oneness, then i studied out of the oneness view into what i believe now.

so i am not really paterned after another denomination. still a on going study, though

Sister Alvear · #75 07-08-2011, 01:34 PM

ok...a personal question you do not have to answer but wondered why type church do you go to?

Dedicated Mind · #76 07-08-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

i dont know the name, i would have to look it up. pretty much what i have come to, is because of my own studies.

I studied out of the trinity into oneness, then i studied out of the oneness view into what i believe now.

so i am not really paterned after another denomination. still a on going study, though

so what is there after oneness? can you provide some links or reading material of your current view or is it a private interpretation?

Nina · #77 07-08-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveC519

The human mind does not have the capacity to allow for the property of omniscience to operate- it simply isn't big enough!

This I can understand.

The knowledge that Jesus did have would have been normal human experiential knowledge, and the exception to this would have been that knowledge which would have been supernaturally revealed to his mind through the operation of the Gifts of the Spirit. Jesus, as a man, was anointed by the Spirit, and that without measure (Jn 3:34; Ac 10:38).

These two sentences seem to refute each other, to me.

Hope that all made sense.

I thank You for Your response,
Nina

acerrak · #78 07-08-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

ok...a personal question you do not have to answer but wondered why type church do you go to?

currently a upci

acerrak · #79 07-08-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

so what is there after oneness? can you provide some links or reading material of your current view or is it a private interpretation?

so far its private interpretation it has similiar roots to arianism but its not complete arianism

LUKE2447 · #80 07-08-2011, 05:03 PM

God... expressed as a man with the relationship we all have and do in the enviroment we call creation. Yet God is still a omnipresent Spirit. hmmm One God two realities of which one is expressed from the eternal Spirit. HE is the brightness of His glory the express image of His person.... Who's? The Father! He is both God(eternal) and man(limited).

Prax good points as usual.