Banning Kids

[coadie]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Hello???!!!! Where on earth are some of you going with your minds? No kids = peace and quiet. I LOVE my kids, but sometimes I need time away with just my husband, and having a screaming toddler next to me in a restaurant or teenagers yelling and hitting the walls in the hotel room next to ours is NOT relaxing.

To me, no kids = relaxation. Sometimes we take family trips and vacations, and other times its just for my husband and me. When its the latter, I appreciate places that are kid-free.

It's so weird that some of you can only think of sinful reasons to have kids out of the picture.

We love children. I traveled with my wife and children even on international business trips. We raised breast fed children and rarely did they see a baby sitter. I remember a dinner at the top of the towers in down town detroit. Our little infant wore a seersucker suit and even was fed discretely during dinner.


Yacht clubs, country clubs and resorts. We are definitely NOT into filial-centric parenting. Gotta have balance. They learned at a young age how to butcher chickens, build a fire, sew, cook and bake on woodstoves and live off the grid.
Recent news has shared with us the Palin family. They live as a family with gusto. They are considered weird by much of the culture. My children when very young were always visiting me at work. I encourage employees to have their children see them at work. We even have former workers come by from time to time with their children. There are companies and restaurants that are very family honoring.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I think I understand it.

In Paris we were refused service in a high end restaurant because we had a one year old with us. I was surprised but I did understand the policy.

Paris. They are excited to refuse service to Americans. We were in an upscale resort one time that ran nearly 4 months booked for reservations. They had no kids menu. They had no high chair. The waiter made several trips to the kitchen and they made a little special menu plate for our daughter. Another resort in Puerto Rico poked around and found 3 NYC phone books for junior to sit on.

[kingdomapostle]

Originally Posted by Bella1

I decided not to read any of the post so that I could say what I wanted and not feel like I was going along with the crowd.

I had a VERY laid back child. From the get go, he was EASY to be with, easy to correct and still to this day, is very respectful.

I started him being around others from the moment he was born. I took him to Camp Meeting at three weeks old. (I would not do that now, but as I young mom, I wanted to show him off)

When Cameron was just past two years old, we went to Camp Meeting. After church one night, we met up with Family and Friends and went to a really nice place to eat. Cameron started acting up, which was unusual. But with all the family and attention, my child became unruly. My husband got up, took him outside. Not realizing that the WHOLE side of the resturant was glass, my husband procedes talk with Cameron and then whipped him. Cameron cried. Raymond comforted him and talked to him some more.

When Raymond walked back into the resturant, an Elderly minister walked up to him and shook his hand. Raymond was a bit confused. The man took Raymond to the side of the resturant and showed him the plate glass window and explained that everyone saw my husband discipline Cameron. He said that not many people would take charge of their child the way that Raymond did.

Raymond and I both decided from before we got married how we wanted out children to act in public. Neither of us wanted to be a grouch when it came to correcting our children. Now...it could have backfired on us and we could have had a hellion on our hands,but honestly, WE PRAYED for Cameron to have a gentle spirit and a good disposition.

Due to having such a good child, I cannot stand when I go out to eat, to church or anywhere else there are children and see them disrespecting their parents or the place that we are at.

So all that being said and I know it is TMI, but I favor having "no children" in places. It gives all the single's a place to go and not have to deal with other parents little people. And BTW parents....PLEASE LEARN TO CORRECT YOUR CHILD AND TEACH THEM HOW TO ACT OUT IN PUBLIC. That way, other people will treat you and your child with respect when they come in contact with you and not run in the opposite direction.

AMEN!
The older I get the more annoyed I am by poorly behaved children. You add to that all the issues we seem to have today that we didn't see as much of years ago (like ADHD, and others), and a nice, peaceful night out can be stressful.

I personally would appreciate dining at a restaurant that didn't allow kids sometimes, and who on earth wouldn't prefer an airplane that didn't allow kids?!!!

I guess I can understand the rationale behind banning children....I can be annoyed by mis-behaving kids as well. I LOVE kids, but some places are just not kid friendly. However, like the examples given above, you can train a child to act a certain way in public. I was trained. My parents seldom traveled without me. I went to lectures, operas, meetings, vacations, and fine dinning establishments without acting out (I would not dare).

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by deafdriscoll

I did get a laugh that some of you twisted my words around. I was trying to be nice and not be lewd about what I meant.But it went over some of your heads.
There is nothing wrong with getting away for a week end. I was questioning the moral effects of banning children. jesus never banned children!!!!!
When the dicsples sent the children away jesus rebuked the 12.
I also noticed that a few of you added words to my statement.
Is it wise to go someplace that bans children????????
It is usaully a place of sin that does that.
A few years ago I went over seas, the children in the Ukraine walked in singe file and said no maam and no sir or put a yes there. They were very polite.
A friend of mine then came to the USA and could not believe how bad our children behave.
Once more I will say that everybody needs time away-like a week end.That is not banning children.

Moral effects of banning children? LOL I was not aware that enjoying a nice quite dinner with no children had moral effects.

I think they should implement this in movie theaters also. There is nothing worse than paying out the nose for a movie, and then having three teenage girls giggle and screw around with their cell phones the entire movie.

Why yes, that is a personal anecdote, why do you ask? lol

[kingdomapostle]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Moral effects of banning children? LOL I was not aware that enjoying a nice quite dinner with no children had moral effects.

I think they should implement this in movie theaters also. There is nothing worse than paying out the nose for a movie, and then having three teenage girls giggle and screw around with their cell phones the entire movie.

Why yes, that is a personal anecdote, why do you ask? lol

I was trying to see how it was against good morals to ban kids too. The scripture about Jesus not forbidding children was so that they could come to the FATHER to receive prayers, not if they could sit in movies and 5-star establishments beside adults. I think that's a huge stretch because with the same bible you can find other examples. Did Jesus take children everywhere with Him?

[RandyWayne]

My wife and I decided from the beginning that we were not going to have any kids so we really do not have a reason to "get away" from any. Having said that we still make every attempt to frequent establishments where children are either not allowed (mainly vacation resorts) or very unlikely to be, at least the unruly ones -probably the main reason we will go out of our way to NOT go to Walmart!

This does not mean we do not "like" kids but as Anne Shirley once said "I enjoy children in moderation".

[jediwill83]

Exactly....I dont have kids...but I had good raising and I've been around alot of children before...and I get a kick out of parents that have the attitude of "You cant tell me anything about what I should do with my child cause YOU dont HAVE children"...This is true in many instances...but I dont have to have kids to know you shouldnt allow your child to act like a lil tin pot dictator in diapers and act any way they want!

[Cindy]

I had more than a few children and if they acted up in public, there were some good lessons to be taught. Now teenagers on the other hand..........there are some places they should be banned.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Cindy

I had more than a few children and if they acted up in public, there were some good lessons to be taught. Now teenagers on the other hand..........there are some places they should be banned.

Such as going to:

The local Lodge?
The Track?
The pool hall? (Wellllll ya got trouble my friend!)
The astronomy and geology sections of the local bookstore and library? (Where they teach OLD Earth garbage!)
The play area at the local McDonalds Playland?
Luscious Lisa's Adult Gifts and Novelty shop?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by coadie

We love children. I traveled with my wife and children even on international business trips. We raised breast fed children and rarely did they see a baby sitter. I remember a dinner at the top of the towers in down town detroit. Our little infant wore a seersucker suit and even was fed discretely during dinner.


Yacht clubs, country clubs and resorts. We are definitely NOT into filial-centric parenting. Gotta have balance. They learned at a young age how to butcher chickens, build a fire, sew, cook and bake on woodstoves and live off the grid.
Recent news has shared with us the Palin family. They live as a family with gusto. They are considered weird by much of the culture. My children when very young were always visiting me at work. I encourage employees to have their children see them at work. We even have former workers come by from time to time with their children. There are companies and restaurants that are very family honoring.

I've been a full time stay-at-home mother ever since they were born, breast-fed all 3 of them, and I've homeschooled for the past 3 years. The only regular babysitter they've ever had was their Grandma. However, balance means that in MY life, I sometimes need time alone with my husband. It's perfectly alright for me to look forward to a night of peace and quiet every now and then. (Chances are I'll miss my kids during dinner anyway, but it's in my best interest to divert myself and enjoy my husband.)