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Old 08-01-2011, 03:03 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference

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My point was if he was revived/healed after CPR they would have strongly pressed for transport even if he appeared ok.

We must be careful to not let negative UPC experiences make us cynical about good things that can happen in UPC.
I'm with you, TS. I'm generally with you on this.

However, at what point must a person begin to conclude that God is simply not "in the UPC" - or at least not there to the extent that the UPC claims?

My own "negative UPC experiences" weren't just when the UPC was having a "bad day..." The toleration of sinful practices amongst the ministry and the blatant abuse of power and control coupled with the too oftentimes silly "exegesis" of Scripture to support just flat out weird teachings goes right to the core of the way the entire organization is run.

It's a mess. A mess that millions have walked away from to the saving of their own souls. Me? I got in too deep so here I am. But I'm not going to be quiet about the abuses anymore.

Every time someone comes up with a "miracle" - I'm going to ask questions.

It does seem that JA's case was simply one where the subject (JA) passed out and was truly unresponsive for either a few or even several minutes. That he is up and moving around now is great! Just how this case gets used remains to be seen.

The UPC does have a track record for distorting and exaggerating these things, however: http://leestoneking.com/My%20Miracle.htm
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