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Old 08-04-2011, 11:18 PM
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Really hoping to get more feedback on this... whaddayathink?
More likely that God simply changed the seriousness of the injuries, by healing.
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I am sure God can do anything but how does He handle all the resulting paradoxes which can, will, or have occurred?
Haven't you seen Back to the Future? Got any photos with your annoying neighbor in them? Pray, and watch him fade away!
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I don't know how to answer that. God CAN do anything. Whether our prayers are effective or not, we have no way of really knowing. When I hear sirens I pray not even knowing the situation. I know God does know, however.
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Haven't you seen Back to the Future? Got any photos with your annoying neighbor in them? Pray, and watch him fade away!
Or like good old George who shouted "I wish I was never born!" and then proceeded to run into old acquaintances who no longer remembered him.
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Or like good old George who shouted "I wish I was never born!" and then proceeded to run into old acquaintances who no longer remembered him.
Or like that episode of Quantum Leap, where we find out that JFK wasn't killed in the original time line -- Jackie was. And that, my friend, is your answer! There would be no perceivable paradox in retro-prayers. You just would have a new history and memories, without even knowing about the old ones.
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Or like that episode of Quantum Leap, where we find out that JFK wasn't killed in the original time line -- Jackie was. And that, my friend, is your answer! There would be no perceivable paradox in retro-prayers. You just would have a new history and memories, without even knowing about the old ones.
Oh, and if your prayer was that your grandfather would die before meeting your grandmother?

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Timmy you better enjoy life AND be nice to everyone on AFF, or I might pray a prayer that will change everything that's happened in your life.

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Or like that episode of Quantum Leap, where we find out that JFK wasn't killed in the original time line -- Jackie was. And that, my friend, is your answer! There would be no perceivable paradox in retro-prayers. You just would have a new history and memories, without even knowing about the old ones.
They did the same thing with Marylin Monroe where Sam arrives to save her, only to have her die two years later which is exactly how she died in our timeline.
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Oh, and if your prayer was that your grandfather would die before meeting your grandmother?

Sayonara, RW.

But then you wouldn't be around to pray that your grandfather would die, which means he would most likely live.

If Montgomery Scott gave the formula for transparent aluminum to present day scientists because he knew how to make it in the future, and thus assumes credit for having invented it. Who actually sat down and figured it out originally?
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But then you wouldn't be around to pray that your grandfather would die, which means he would most likely live.
Doesn't matter. In the new timeline, grandpa's dead and you're never born. The paradox is really only a problem for time travelers, not for retro-prayer-warriors. But, even in that case (time travel), the solution is pretty simple: the universe splits in two whenever someone travels to the past. One half is the "original" time line, where grandpa lives and you are born and do the time-travel -- it continues from there without you (since you left the timeline to go back), and the other half where grandpa dies and you are never born.

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If Montgomery Scott gave the formula for transparent aluminum to present day scientists because he knew how to make it in the future, and thus assumes credit for having invented it. Who actually sat down and figured it out originally?
Another Back to the Future scenario! Like Doc going back and telling himself about the flux capacitor, and Marty bringing rock and roll to the fifties.
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