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Old 08-13-2011, 09:36 AM
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Re: Liberties or The Devil's Lair?

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I would have a serious problem with wearing make up.


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I guess you mean for guys? Hoovie mentioned covering zits, specifically. Do you think guys should not do that?
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:41 AM
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About not having to have someone to dress you. My pastor sets some guidelines for what is modest. He doesn't tell me or anyone else what to wear.
so if your pastor only sets a guideline for you to follow to be modest, if you do not follow his guideline and follow one that you believe is given to you by God will you be allowed to continue in any leadership capacity or would you be considered rebellious and unsaved??
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I agree with you in this.

We are both natural and spiritual and there are things that we, as individuals, must do to encourage our abundant life as a Christian.

For example, the former bar fly who is now living as a son or daughter of God should be careful to avoid the bars-- for more than a little while.

This isn't legalism, this is wisdom.
but the bar fly who should stay away from bars does not mean that everyone should abstain from alcohol. it means that person had a problem and should stay away from bars, alcohol, and whatever else it was that caused them problems. BUT not everyone is the same and should be allowed to make those choices for themselves based on their relationship with God.

No I do not feel a Christian should spend tons of time in bars but I have gone into one or two in my time and only ate. Some of them have really good cooks and serve some really great grub.
neither do I believe it would have been wrong of me if I had drank an alcoholic beverage with my meal either.
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When they are baptized in Jesus name.
So when they are 100% hungry for God, and God "fills they that hunger" per His promise, yet they never hear or comprehend your understanding of Jesus name baptism (being of necessity to be spoken by the baptized at baptism), then Gods promise is NOT fullflled with them(no matter what He said), and they are not your brother....So how and who is keeping God from fulfilling His promise to these that are 100% hungry for God and yet are never baptized according to your understanding of Jesus name baptism(expressed by the baptized)?

Or is that what u mean by Jesus name baptism?
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:52 AM
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How about diving in a wet suit? Or does the all-important jean skirt still need to be worn (by women)?

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I'd like to thank you, but no - that wouldn't be right either!
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So when they are 100% hungry for God, and God "fills they that hunger" per His promise, yet they never hear or comprehend your understanding of Jesus name baptism (being of necessity to be spoken by the baptized at baptism), then Gods promise is NOT fullflled with them(no matter what He said), and they are not your brother....So how and who is keeping God from fulfilling His promise to these that are 100% hungry for God and yet are never baptized according to your understanding of Jesus name baptism(expressed by the baptized)?

Or is that what u mean by Jesus name baptism?
The Holy Ghost leads into all truth. God responds to the hungry heart by filling them with His Spirit and leading them into truth. The problem often is that God may fill a hungry soul with the Holy Ghost and begin to lead them into truth yet they resist the drawing and leading of the Spirit. It is not that God does not fulfill his promise but that the individual values tradition above truth. I have seen numerous ppl receive the Holy Ghost in a trinitarian church and then God begins to reveal the oneness of the Godhead and baptism in Jesus name to them. I have seen several who resisted the drawing and leading of the Spirit and the revelation God is giving them and when they do this something happens to their spirit. Their hunger and desire for more of God subsides. God is faithful to lead us if we are faithful to be led.
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Re: Liberties or The Devil's Lair?

In all fairness, though I am Oneness, I have known people who recieved the Spirit (even with tongues) and feel they were led to a Trinitarian understanding of God.

The body is not defined by the theological tenants of Oneness Pentecostalism. Like all we have evolving hermeneutics of the sacred text.
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