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08-17-2011, 07:21 PM
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
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Whoa!!! Can you even say that? Oh yeah, you are anonymous (sort of).
Great Post!
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LOL
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08-17-2011, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
I had coffee with a UPC preacher and he asked me about that night's Bible study. I told him we were doing an expository study of Romans. He said hecould never do those, because he would always end up not "feeling" it for that week and hed end up leaving the study and teaching something else. I thought to myself that this was probably the common approach to the miniostry of the Word in Pentecostal circles. Therefore there is a lot of Biblical illiteracy and a lot of spiritualism. The problem is that the truth makes you free, not goosebumps and convulsions.
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I'm tellin' you, I really like this Deacon Blues fellow.
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08-17-2011, 09:20 PM
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
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Originally Posted by pelathais
These are the same folks that rejoiced over Borat's "conversion" - are they not?
I would tend to agree about it being cute. The child has a gift for mimicry. That's cute when most kinds do something similar: emulating their parents or someone they see frequently. When my oldest was one or two years old he used to "preach" along with me. He seemed to think it was pretty amazing that his Dad's voice was coming out of those speakers and he wanted join in with it.
If people are really being "brought to their feet" by this "preaching," then I think that we do have another "Borat-style phenomena" at work. UPC people are trained and coached to "get to their feet" like Nancy Pelosi every time Obama makes an "applause" line in a State of the Union speech.
And, when they "get lazy" (usually, when they get to feeling stupid about their ape-like behavior and start demanding real content in their sermons) they are scolded by evangelists and their pouting and "hurt" pastors. So the cycle starts all over again.
I watched the MSNBC tape and saw how the young boy was cued by the preacher (his father?) to assume positions across the platform. If the church is actually getting anything out of this, then the must have been schooled to accept pretty much anything that comes from their platform. No discernment, no checking the Scripture to see if these things be true... just enjoy it for whatever entertainment you can get out of it and keep quite about wanting any "meat."
It's not the kid that I have a problem with. It's the adults. And the fact that when an adult steps into the pulpit and acts like a 4-year-old we're all somehow supposed to like it.
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I agree with everything you said. I was just trying to be nice for once.
I have gotten several text messages today from people who I have known my whole life in Mississippi and they didn't like it.
The truth is that a child should have never been allowed in the pulpit to begin with. It shows a disrespect for the office of the minister and really makes pentecostals look weird.
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08-17-2011, 10:53 PM
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
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Originally Posted by deltaguitar
I agree with everything you said. I was just trying to be nice for once.
I have gotten several text messages today from people who I have known my whole life in Mississippi and they didn't like it.
The truth is that a child should have never been allowed in the pulpit to begin with. It shows a disrespect for the office of the minister and really makes pentecostals look weird.
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Yes, because THAT makes pentecostals look weird.
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08-17-2011, 10:54 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
There is no cure for stupid, and this is adults being very stupid. A very intelligent child without boundaries by the adults around him, shows great ignorance of the parents.
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08-17-2011, 10:56 PM
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
I didn't read the article. Is this about the Pint Sized Preachers that is going to air on NATGEO in 4 minutes?
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08-17-2011, 10:58 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
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Originally Posted by pelathais
These are the same folks that rejoiced over Borat's "conversion" - are they not?
I would tend to agree about it being cute. The child has a gift for mimicry. That's cute when most kinds do something similar: emulating their parents or someone they see frequently. When my oldest was one or two years old he used to "preach" along with me. He seemed to think it was pretty amazing that his Dad's voice was coming out of those speakers and he wanted join in with it.
If people are really being "brought to their feet" by this "preaching," then I think that we do have another "Borat-style phenomena" at work. UPC people are trained and coached to "get to their feet" like Nancy Pelosi every time Obama makes an "applause" line in a State of the Union speech.
And, when they "get lazy" (usually, when they get to feeling stupid about their ape-like behavior and start demanding real content in their sermons) they are scolded by evangelists and their pouting and "hurt" pastors. So the cycle starts all over again.
I watched the MSNBC tape and saw how the young boy was cued by the preacher (his father?) to assume positions across the platform. If the church is actually getting anything out of this, then the must have been schooled to accept pretty much anything that comes from their platform. No discernment, no checking the Scripture to see if these things be true... just enjoy it for whatever entertainment you can get out of it and keep quite about wanting any "meat."
It's not the kid that I have a problem with. It's the adults. And the fact that when an adult steps into the pulpit and acts like a 4-year-old we're all somehow supposed to like it.
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You said it much more fully, the ignorance of the adults around this child is astounding.
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08-17-2011, 11:02 PM
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
yep. natgeo.
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08-17-2011, 11:03 PM
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
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Originally Posted by crakjak
You said it much more fully, the ignorance of the adults around this child is astounding.
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The ignorance of the congregation is both entertaining and frightening. If I was an average con man I could come up with any number of ponzi schemes or multi-level marketing ideas and make a FORTUNE off of this crowd.
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08-17-2011, 11:03 PM
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Re: Kid Preacher (UPC) on Today and Fox and Friend
The kid is 4 now. He's an evangelist, apparently.
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