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Originally Posted by Amanah
I would say we are accountable to God, his Holy Spirit and his Word teaching and convicting us.
I would say we are accountable to the men and women of God that he places in our lives to perfect us. But we're to follow them only as they follow Christ.
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Amanah thank you for your imput, don't feel as if I am putting you down or arguing, but I am spring boarding off of your statement to open up other lines of thought.
We are accountable to one another, how can one be accountable to God and men/women at the same time? Either we learn from the spirit of God as we study his word. Or we are subject to man as they tell us what they think the word of God says. To follow as they follow Christ means we must think for ourselves. Our elder are there to give us direction not dictate or perfect what they think if right or wrong.
Where do you see in scripture that God places
people in our lives to perfect us?
Ephesians 4 states that God gave gifts to the church not people in particular. within each group as needed these gifts come to the surface to equip (perfect) us to do OUR work of ministry. not for the work of the ministry.
There is no way that one man standing behind a pulpit trying to perfect all what he calls saints edifies the body of Christ. All that does is edify the man behind the pulpit.
In light of Jesus teaching in the verses above I have a hard time seeing how people can see the form of authority found in most Christian churches to be bible. It is much like Jesus scolding the pharises as whitened sepulchres but they did not recognize what they were doing wrong. We have been so developed into our traditions that when faced with something different that might be truth we can't see it.
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