Racists

[scotty]

There are probably half a dozen blacks who are members of my church. We don't have a problem, love them to death. They are great saints.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

There is a completely different dynamic in that statement that, when mentioned alone, the complete picture is not presented.


Doing business with minority-owned businesses helps to keep these (usually smaller businesses) alive-- thus helping the entire community, blacks and those who live with them and around them.

If small businesses thrive it is good for the local, state and national economy.


There is an unspoken bias within some circles of the black community that if you do business with a black person, you can't trust them, their products are defective, their prices are higher, blah, blah, and blah. He was speaking against that notion as well.


Given the congreagation population, the economic history (which is INDEED tied to their race) and location of Pastor Jakes' church, the statement you mentioned is hardly racist.

That's the victim mentality that's so prevalent among blacks. If we aren't succeeding it's SOMEONE ELSE'S fault. The truth is,iIf a black owned business isn't succeeding, it's the black owned business's fault, not whitey.

Look at the thousands of successful minority businesses within the Asian community for a good example. Minority after minority succeeds with hard work and providing a commodity that's needed at fair prices. That's the American way.

To do business with a person or store simply because they're black owned is wrong and perpetuates the victim mentality that's so common within the black behavior.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Weird, because I've felt exactly the opposite. Every time I've visited a black church, I've been warmly welcomed and I felt like part of the group. Probably moreso than when I've visited "white" churches for the first time. Generally speaking, diverse or ethnic churches just seem friendlier. (Is that a racist remark? )

I attended a black church for a while. They welcomed us warmly. And I also taught the teenage class in Sunday School. It was awesome.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by seekerman

That's the victim mentality that's so prevalent among blacks. If we aren't succeeding it's SOMEONE ELSE'S fault. The truth is,iIf a black owned business isn't succeeding, it's the black owned business's fault, not whitey.

Look at the thousands of successful minority businesses within the Asian community for a good example. Minority after minority succeeds with hard work and providing a commodity that's needed at fair prices. That's the American way.

To do business with a person or store simply because they're black owned is wrong and perpetuates the victim mentality that's so common within the black behavior.

In some parts of the country, maybe. The truth is a lot of small business's fail.

[houston]

I agree, seeker

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Weird, because I've felt exactly the opposite. Every time I've visited a black church, I've been warmly welcomed and I felt like part of the group. Probably moreso than when I've visited "white" churches for the first time. Generally speaking, diverse or ethnic churches just seem friendlier. (Is that a racist remark? )

We recently sang at a COGIC church (almost 100% black membership) and we just can't keep up with the bookings since then. We were certainly received well and had a great time.

We were already booked for this coming Thursday or we would be singing at a COGIC youth revival in a neighboring town.

[Aquila]

One church I attended had a few seriously racist brothers and sisters. BUT... the church itself wasn't racist. The pastor preached against that kind of attitude strongly. If your pastor isn't the one making these remarks, I'd schedule a meeting with him and explain what you heard and how it troubled you. I'd also explain to him that you're looking to foster or adopt a child of another race and you're concerned with the environment they could face in the church. Upon hearing these things from you, I'd imagine that your pastor could address racism from the pulpit and make it clear on no uncertain terms that racist attitudes aren't tolerated in the church.

If that doesn't work... I'd change churches to protect the child I planned on fostering or adopting.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Weird, because I've felt exactly the opposite. Every time I've visited a black church, I've been warmly welcomed and I felt like part of the group. Probably moreso than when I've visited "white" churches for the first time. Generally speaking, diverse or ethnic churches just seem friendlier. (Is that a racist remark? )

Hands down, black churches are more welcoming and friendly.

[soldoutochrist]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Hands down, black churches are more welcoming and friendly.

This has been my experience and cannot be generalized. But the only time that I've found "white" churches particularly unwelcome or seemingly uncomfortable is when I was in an area with very little diversity.

When churches are surrounded by diversity and people of all different colors, it's a lot harder to be ignorant about race. Just my two cents.

[Truthseeker]

I remember when we were helping a church that didn't have a pastor, some of us would rotate through. I invited a lady cashier she responded "isn't that a black church" I responded "not when I'm there"