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Old 09-23-2011, 07:45 AM
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Well, he explained it like this: Yes, trinnies are lost. But it turns out, if someone dies "lost", they won't necessarily end up in hell. God may have mercy. I kid you not.
Sounds like a wise position, we should not be so arrogant to think that we could not be wrong on any of our beliefs. Shouldn't we teach what we believe to be the truth, yet leave the final things to God?
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:48 AM
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I visit an AoG church near my close to my home from time to time, along with the UPC church that i more regularly attend. The AoG people, for the most part, have a basic sense of modesty and holiness even though no one is preaching UPC standards to them.

Maybe it's better to let people be who they really are. Wouldn't you rather have people be real and able to admit their flaws and shortcomings, then to pretend to have a perfect life that is all together even if it isn't?

You can tell a woman she has to wear a dress down below her knees, but if she wants to she can wear it tight and find a way to make it sexy anyway.

Maybe we could help each other grow in Christ better if we can be honest about who we really are with each other.

I feel like I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words here, and I'm trying hard not to be misunderstood, but I don't think its working.
Sounds good to me, quite clear.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:51 AM
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Sounds like a wise position, we should not be so arrogant to think that we could not be wrong on any of our beliefs. Shouldn't we teach what we believe to be the truth, yet leave the final things to God?
For those things that are not clearly spelled out in the Bible, you mean?
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For those things that are not clearly spelled out in the Bible, you mean?
Timmy they are clearly spelled out in the Bible that is why I preach everyone is lost outside the Acts 2:38 message. But God is the Lawgiver and as Judge He can do what He wants and violate no Law since He is the law. Do I believe He will? I seriously doubt it. But He alone is the final Judge of all the earth.
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Timmy they are clearly spelled out in the Bible that is why I preach everyone is lost outside the Acts 2:38 message. But God is the Lawgiver and as Judge He can do what He wants and violate no Law since He is the law. Do I believe He will? I seriously doubt it. But He alone is the final Judge of all the earth.
Isn't it clearly spelled out what will happen to those who die lost?
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Isn't it clearly spelled out what will happen to those who die lost?
It most certainly does and since we are talking past each other or I am not making myself clear I do not have the ability to make myself any clearer. I will cease and desist.
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It most certainly does and since we are talking past each other or I am not making myself clear I do not have the ability to make myself any clearer. I will cease and desist.
You are making yourself clear. We are not talking past each other. (Till now, maybe! )

You said people who die lost might not end up in hell. That's up to God to decide. And now you are saying that the Bible does clearly say what happens to people who die lost. So far, so good. But please, let's continue talking. I would very much like to know what the Bible clearly says will happen to those people. Please tell me.
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You are making yourself clear. We are not talking past each other. (Till now, maybe! )

You said people who die lost might not end up in hell. That's up to God to decide. And now you are saying that the Bible does clearly say what happens to people who die lost. So far, so good. But please, let's continue talking. I would very much like to know what the Bible clearly says will happen to those people. Please tell me.
I am very comfortable with the Heavenly Father making those decisions, matter of fact I believe He has already decided.
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I am very comfortable with the Heavenly Father making those decisions, matter of fact I believe He has already decided.
I wasn't talking to you!

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