What Must I Do? - Page 7

Aquila · #61 10-05-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by berkeley

God is willing that none should perish ...except those that perish. O.o

God isn't willing that any should perish... but all have chosen sin. Therefore ALL deserve Hell. And so God, being a just judge, has to punish man's sin. However, God's love prevents God from sending all of mankind to Hell. To satisfy His justice He gave His only begotten Son by way of the cross. Christ's death was a propitiation for God's elect.

The President would that there be world peace... but mankind has chosen otherwise. Therefore the President has chosen to use military might where needed to bring as much peace as possible.

Just because God would that all men be saved... it doesn't mean that all men will be saved... nor does it mean that all men will be given a chance.

berkeley · #62 10-05-2011, 03:31 PM

I didn't choose sin. I was born a transgressor.

Aquila · #63 10-05-2011, 03:32 PM

If God is fair... none of us have any hope. Because we'll get what we deserve.... Hell.

But if God isn't fair, but rather just... He may freely choose a remnant to save according to His sovereign will, through Christ who serves as our propitiation.

Spiritual Communism is a deplorable thing. We are God's. And God chooses to do with us as He chooses. And though we kick and scream and protest, banging our fists and declaring our free will... that's the cold hard reality.

Aquila · #64 10-05-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by berkeley

I didn't choose sin. I was born a transgressor.

True. There is the doctrine of Federal Headship. In Adam we all sinned and spiritually died. And so Adam's sinful condition is reckoned to us because we were in his loins. We thereby have a sinful nature. This is why we are born transgressors. The sins we commit are only manifestations of the vile, sickening, debased, depraved, monsterious, vicious, deplorable nature we have inhereted.

Timmy · #65 10-05-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

All we deserve is Hell.

Speak for yourself!

Aquila · #66 10-05-2011, 03:39 PM

Here's a little comedy relief...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfc9A...eature=related

Timmy · #67 10-05-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Here's a little comedy relief...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfc9A...eature=related

Yeah, it's hilarious how you guys believe that we get lots of negative "credit" for the bad things we have done, but nothing for the good things. They don't count. Filthy rags. Hilarious.

Aquila · #68 10-05-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Yeah, it's hilarious how you guys believe that we get lots of negative "credit" for the bad things we have done, but nothing for the good things. They don't count. Filthy rags. Hilarious.

Ummm... if you want to claim credit... feel free.

I can glory only in Christ and what He's done for me.