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11-02-2011, 07:51 PM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
Definitely abuse.
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11-02-2011, 08:54 PM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
Disgusting behavior on the part of both parents. I could make a specific list but it would be too long. Smart kid, though, catching it on tape.
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Originally Posted by deltaguitar
It doesn't look like the girl was actually hurt physically.
That being said, this isn't discipline at all but looks more like anger.
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Really? So as long as there aren't lacerations and broken bones, she isn't "hurt?"
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I got worse than that when i was a kid and i turned out just fine.
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Who cares? My husband was beat till blood run down his legs and worse and he turned out fine, too. Albeit with a lot of hurt and anger to work through. How you "turn out" doesn't necessarily speak to your parents' parenting skills. Some abused children rise above their circumstances and become normal, successful adults. That doesn't make the abuse right.
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And then Mom joined in?
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That would happen in my house over my dead body. Not only did the Mom not try to protect her daughter, she actually made sure that the Dad knew the whole thing was her daughter's fault. The only thing that I saw that seemed like a sort of back handed defense is that she was trying to get the girl to allow her to whip her on the "butt" so that the Dad would stop. It seemed like a weak attempt at stopping the situation to me.
I would wonder whether or not that anger had been turned on the Mom in the form of physical abuse. Emotional abuse with this kind of man is a given.
Sickening.
FYI, this video was made in 2004, when the girl was 16. She had the video for a long time and finally released it to the press herself. According to the article below, she has cerebral palsy, making this abuse even more unpalatable. (As if any at all is palatable.)
Link to another article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1071822.html
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11-02-2011, 09:56 PM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Disgusting behavior on the part of both parents. I could make a specific list but it would be too long. Smart kid, though, catching it on tape.
Really? So as long as there aren't lacerations and broken bones, she isn't "hurt?"
Who cares? My husband was beat till blood run down his legs and worse and he turned out fine, too. Albeit with a lot of hurt and anger to work through. How you "turn out" doesn't necessarily speak to your parents' parenting skills. Some abused children rise above their circumstances and become normal, successful adults. That doesn't make the abuse right.
That would happen in my house over my dead body. Not only did the Mom not try to protect her daughter, she actually made sure that the Dad knew the whole thing was her daughter's fault. The only thing that I saw that seemed like a sort of back handed defense is that she was trying to get the girl to allow her to whip her on the "butt" so that the Dad would stop. It seemed like a weak attempt at stopping the situation to me.
I would wonder whether or not that anger had been turned on the Mom in the form of physical abuse. Emotional abuse with this kind of man is a given.
Sickening.
FYI, this video was made in 2004, when the girl was 16. She had the video for a long time and finally released it to the press herself. According to the article below, she has cerebral palsy, making this abuse even more unpalatable. (As if any at all is palatable.)
Link to another article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1071822.html
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My daughter is a very good child and very rarely needs spankings. She does not respond well to spankings. It seems to make her worse. She is six and I really hate to spank her but sometimes when she will not allow other correction I am left with no choice.
She claims that my spankings do not hurt, I think she has a high pain tolerance. Anyway, if I was going to spank her to the point of changing her mind about something it would probably look like abuse even though she might be laughing the whole time.
As a child I would never tell my parents that it didn't hurt or laugh when they spanked me because I knew they could make it hurt.
Anyway, I have decided that spankings do not work with my daughter. I spend a lot of time talking with her and trying to teach her. Sometimes she still gets a spanking but only if she is in pure rebellion and it hurts me to do it but it seems like she begs for it at times.
I got spanked all the time as a child and I am not sure the spankings ever helped my attitude or submission.
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11-02-2011, 10:26 PM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
That was disgusting and disturbing.
Correction should not be given in anger, but in sorrow and in love.
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11-02-2011, 11:24 PM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
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I got worse than that when i was a kid and i turned out just fine.
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I got that bad.... and it involved church, or my lack of "desire" to go. Long endless church. Hours and hours of timeless church. Nothing but church. Oh lord how I HATE church. My dad would even drive my near a local insane asylum and threaten shock treatments if I didn't comply and start agreeing to go to church with them as the perfect little child who would make their family unit appear more functional. God almighty I HATE church. And I DARE someone to say "oh get over it and let JEE-ZUS in!".
Over 25 years later and my heart starts missing beats when I am forced to enter a church and.... stand through a song service.
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11-03-2011, 12:22 AM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
I received my share of spankings when I was growing up. Generally ours were for rebellion, open disrespect of Mom or Dad, lying, or cheating in school. My parents had other ways to punish asides from spanking, but we were all fairly good kids and could go for months without doing anything to get any more than a scolding. The things I hated more than spankings was a lecture or tears from Mom I would want to scream, "Spank me please, but do not cry!" That was worse than any other punishment Mom crying.
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11-03-2011, 05:20 AM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
This went way too far..one thing to whip a child but to tell her she does not belong in that house is wrong.Her dad is a punk and deserves the same beating..
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11-03-2011, 05:28 AM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
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No, that part ? no ! And without the cursing i might add. Having said that i only used a belt once or twice on my son (when i caught him stealing from about 10 different stores then i made him take back everything returnable and he worked and paid me back for that which wasnt returnable) and the other time maybe when he hit his mother, though she deserved it ,one of my daughters, i never spanked ,didnt have to, my other daughter i only spanked once,i then apologized later, because i did it with too much anger.all of my children turned out wonderful ,despite their mother being a terrible example, what she did to them in private i dont know, i do know she was very abusive verbally and some physically too, they would never tell me what, i really couldnt ask for better children, my son is a perfect gentleman.Im a happy man, though i wish he would go back to church 
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Am I the only one who caught this line? You think his mother, your wife presumably, DESERVED to be hit?
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11-03-2011, 05:32 AM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
I saw it and chose not to comment. I do not have enough information to make an informed response to that one quote.
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11-03-2011, 08:14 AM
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Re: viral video of teen punishment
Y'all might not believe this, since I am so sweet and nice. But, I got lots of spankings when I was a kid. Some deserved, others not so much. But, boy I tell you, I hated the switches!!!!!!
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