I believe that God placed the cycles of the climate in order from the beginning. I see nothing about the current state of things that are outside of the bounds God set from the beginning.
Oh YEAH?!? Well I believe that he been given our rain to them Canadians. and it all overflowed the Mississippi this year. I thought about Justin Wilson who said that we in Texas should get us a pipe and run it the Mississippi, and then got on the other end and suck...
I believe that God placed the cycles of the climate in order from the beginning. I see nothing about the current state of things that are outside of the bounds God set from the beginning.
Then God caused all of the famines and droughts throughout history. And the deaths resulting were His will. Nice.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Not necessarily. Even the idea of eternal punishment serves to glorify God's righteousness and as an eternal example of judgement against evil. God is eternally righteous and holy...a crime against Him and His nature requires eternal consequence. For example, an assault against me is a misdemeanor, an assault against the President is a felony. An assault against God is a crime of an eternal nature.
Well, sure, that makes perfect sense. God is way, way, way more vindictive than any human. Steal a candy bar? Burn forever. Has to be that way, because God is so ... uhhh.... holy? Yeah. Perfect sense.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Of course I would argue that the verse mentioned Aquila is in Psalms. The intention of the Psalms was to be poetic praise, not necessarily doctrinal teaching. Did David intend to literally express doctrine regarding God and man's predestination? Or was this simply poetic language used to encourage that God indeed has our lives in HIs hands and we can find comfort in trusting Him?
Further, these are the assertions of the writer. He isn't saying that God told him He had written all his days. Rather the writer is saying he believes God had written all his days. It is man's assertion here, not God's statement.
I gotta disagree with your view concerning the intent of the Psalms (as the apostles Paul and Peter apparently did also)....
2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:..."
2 Peter 1:21 (KJV) "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."
I gotta disagree with your view concerning the intent of the Psalms (as the apostles Paul and Peter apparently did also)....
2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:..."
The "..." must be the list of inspired scriptures.
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2 Peter 1:21 (KJV) "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."
And everyone who claimed to be a holy man of God really was a holy man of God. Apparently.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Timmy, I'm not one who attempts to search for "loop holes" in the inspired words of the scriptures. I also believe that those who do so, do it at their own peril (simply stated), for it will serve as the basis by which every man, woman and child will be judged.
I accept it's contents to be the sacred written Oracles of God which "Says what it means, and means what it says!" If you (or others) choose to question it's merits, then that is a personal choice, the likes of which even God will not deny one to do.
Timmy, I'm not one who attempts to search for "loop holes" in the inspired words of the scriptures. I also believe that those who do so, do it at their own peril (simply stated), for it will serve as the basis by which every man, woman and child will be judged.
I accept it's contents to be the sacred written Oracles of God which "Says what it means, and means what it says!" If you (or others) choose to question it's merits, then that is a personal choice, the likes of which even God will not deny one to do.
If you are going to accept some ancient writings a inspired, I hope you chose the right ones. I'm sure you hope so, too.
As for God denying my right to question the Bible, I suppose you are right. But, according to most who believe the Bible, He will punish me for doing so. It's a funny kind of "right", I guess.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Well, sure, that makes perfect sense. God is way, way, way more vindictive than any human. Steal a candy bar? Burn forever. Has to be that way, because God is so ... uhhh.... holy? Yeah. Perfect sense.
Timmy, my grandmother used to say, "Show me a man who will lie... and I'll show you a man who will steal and kill."
You see, stealing a candy bar isn't the problem with a person Timmy. The stealing is just a symptom. The lying, cheating, killing, adultery, lust, homosexuality, violence, drunkeness, etc.... are all just symptoms if a deeper far more serious problem. We can see sin in an action... but sin itself is a broader principle at work in mankind's fallen nature. It is sin that inspires stealing, lying, adultery, and murder. The very same sin that inspires a tiny "white lie" is the same sin that inspired the Holocaust. It is a complete disregard for divine authority. It is an absolute challenge to God's sovereignty as King of all things. When we steal, we play God. God who gives and takes away as He wills... we see ourselves as being "God" and able to give and take at will. When we kill... we play God. God alone rules when a man is to die... we assume we have that right and seek to take the life of another. We try to kick God off of the throne of creation and be our own little God.
Nothing with a nature so vile and rebellious can live in harmony with God throughout eternity. It must be stopped... it must also be punished to uphold "justice". A man named Dale disregarded the law and chose to drive drunk. He hit my brother while he was crossing the street on Drummer Ave. in Dayton Ohio to go to the park. The man was drunk, speeding, and out of control. Total disregard for authority. He hit my brother at a high rate of speed, my seven year old brother got tangled up under the car and was drug nearly three blocks. He later died at Miami Valley Hospital. The man's problem wasn't his drinking... it was SIN. God will judge Dale with a fearsome and eternal justice... unless Dale falls on his knees and seeks a loving and eternal grace. I pray he's found it. And I pray that if he hasn't... he will.
While we think of God as vindictive... let's remember... God is a KING. He must keep order in His creation. He must uphold justice, order, and law. And God has chosen to give us this minute space of time called life as a "grace period" whereby we can turn to Him and be forgiven of even the most vile acts. God also promises to regenerate our Spirits and to aid in putting that sin nature in check...if we will walk in accordance to His Spirit as directed in the Word. God doesn't have to be so forgiving. But He chooses to be... because God loves us. Many don't see God this way. They want God to approve of their deeds and ignore their sinful rebellious nature that will one day drive them to spit in the face of God. Think of it Timmy... God is everywhere. That means that God is sitting right next to you now. And He was sitting next to you when you called Him "vindictive". What options do you leave Him with regards to your placement in eternity? The question is rhetorical and I don't desire you to answer here. I only want you to think about the question. So many have already declared themselves enemies of God... when God is the very one pleading for their surrender and salvation. If God's prevenient grace is active in your life Timmy and He's calling you to Himself... don't delay. Follow that calling and embrace a Father who loves you. But don't be mislead... He's a fearsome King who will judge and punish His enemies with an eternal justice.
Timmy, my grandmother used to say, "Show me a man who will lie... and I'll show you a man who will steal and kill."
You see, stealing a candy bar isn't the problem with a person Timmy. The stealing is just a symptom. The lying, cheating, killing, adultery, lust, homosexuality, violence, drunkeness, etc.... are all just symptoms if a deeper far more serious problem. We can see sin in an action... but sin itself is a broader principle at work in mankind's fallen nature. It is sin that inspires stealing, lying, adultery, and murder. The very same sin that inspires a tiny "white lie" is the same sin that inspired the Holocaust. It is a complete disregard for divine authority. It is an absolute challenge to God's sovereignty as King of all things. When we steal, we play God. God who gives and takes away as He wills... we see ourselves as being "God" and able to give and take at will. When we kill... we play God. God alone rules when a man is to die... we assume we have that right and seek to take the life of another. We try to kick God off of the throne of creation and be our own little God.
Nothing with a nature so vile and rebellious can live in harmony with God throughout eternity. It must be stopped... it must also be punished to uphold "justice". A man named Dale disregarded the law and chose to drive drunk. He hit my brother while he was crossing the street on Drummer Ave. in Dayton Ohio to go to the park. The man was drunk, speeding, and out of control. Total disregard for authority. He hit my brother at a high rate of speed, my seven year old brother got tangled up under the car and was drug nearly three blocks. He later died at Miami Valley Hospital. The man's problem wasn't his drinking... it was SIN. God will judge Dale with a fearsome and eternal justice... unless Dale falls on his knees and seeks a loving and eternal grace. I pray he's found it. And I pray that if he hasn't... he will.
While we think of God as vindictive... let's remember... God is a KING. He must keep order in His creation. He must uphold justice, order, and law. And God has chosen to give us this minute space of time called life as a "grace period" whereby we can turn to Him and be forgiven of even the most vile acts. God also promises to regenerate our Spirits and to aid in putting that sin nature in check...if we will walk in accordance to His Spirit as directed in the Word. God doesn't have to be so forgiving. But He chooses to be... because God loves us. Many don't see God this way. They want God to approve of their deeds and ignore their sinful rebellious nature that will one day drive them to spit in the face of God. Think of it Timmy... God is everywhere. That means that God is sitting right next to you now. And He was sitting next to you when you called Him "vindictive". What options do you leave Him with regards to your placement in eternity? The question is rhetorical and I don't desire you to answer here. I only want you to think about the question. So many have already declared themselves enemies of God... when God is the very one pleading for their surrender and salvation. If God's prevenient grace is active in your life Timmy and He's calling you to Himself... don't delay. Follow that calling and embrace a Father who loves you. But don't be mislead... He's a fearsome King who will judge and punish His enemies with an eternal justice.
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