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Old 11-21-2011, 10:24 AM
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Then there is hope for those believers at Westboro baptist.
Yes, I suppose.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:28 AM
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God hates sin. But while we were still sinning He died for us.
Does God hate unrepentant gays?
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:34 AM
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Does God hate unrepentant gays?
God hates sin, but it's clear he loves unrepentant sinners, else no one could be saved - including you.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:54 AM
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God hates sin, but it's clear he loves unrepentant sinners, else no one could be saved - including you.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:32 AM
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What disturbs me the most about Westboro, and holiness zealots, is their absolute glee at the thought that someone is wrong, or is going to get punished, or is headed for Hell.

There's no love in their message, only hate.
To me the most grevious thing is what they have done to themselves..

What does the bible say about visiting widows an orphans in their affliction?
To me, that's the most greivious suicidal sin one can do...

Jesus talks about cutting off limbs and blotting out eyes and I believe the may well fall into that category ....
While the bible does talk about sever consequenses in Revelation 6:14-17 about men of war.... to knarl their grieving love one's innards, possibly for life is an unforgivable offense..How can you expect someone to turn loose the hatred they would feel for those people....
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:17 PM
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Does God love the unsaved, even after they die?
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:02 PM
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Westboro Baptist Church is famous for their protests and rants about the justice of God. Their message is that God hates fags, and hates the US government and military for "promoting" homosexuality.

As a result, they protest at the funerals of fallen soldiers. Lately, however, they have expanded their protests. They announced today that they will be protesting at the funeral of a 19 year old Arkansas Razorback football player who was found dead yesterday of natural causes.

The reason they are protesting his funeral is because football leads to pride.

Understand, these people scream things like "God hates you" and "burn in Hell" to the relatives of the deceased at the grave sites.. They tell the family that their loved one is in Hell.

I think most of us would consider this well beyond extreme, but it's really not that different from some preachers telling people that they are going to Hell because they wear jewelry and/or make up. They justify this "teaching" by saying that those things are rooted in pride.

I have seen the same mean spirited tripe preached from the pulpits of Oneness churches but we just chalked it up to "holiness" preaching.
I've been to a lot of oneness churches in my life. Many of them were what you would call UC.
I have never heard it preached that wearing jewelry or make up sends you to hell.
I am sure that it happens, but it is not as common as some here seem to believe.
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:27 PM
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Does God love the unsaved, even after they die?
yes, but it isn't going to change their sentence on judgement day.
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I've been to a lot of oneness churches in my life. Many of them were what you would call UC.
I have never heard it preached that wearing jewelry or make up sends you to hell.
I am sure that it happens, but it is not as common as some here seem to believe.
It's implied.
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:34 PM
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church Similarities

Aegsm76,

It's no different than if you as a male grew facial hair. If you then attended these same UC churches, you'd be treated as a permanent "visitor".
So what is the difference between being implicitly condemned for outerwear or being verbally lambasted? Either way, it's still their idea of "holiness or hell".
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