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Originally Posted by Timmy
By "with", I meant in same way He was with Moses and Aaron. The stated purpose of the rod/serpent miracle was to show Pharaoh that God had appeared to them. God had a backup plan, of course. If that didn't work, Moses (or Aaron) was to do the hand-turned-leprous-and-back miracle. Plan C was to be pouring river water onto the ground to be turned into blood.
Well, plan A didn't seem to work (though it may only be because God hardened Pharaoh's heart -- hard to say). Plans B and C seem to have been skipped, in favor of an even better (I guess) plan, and, well, the rest is "history".
Anyway, back to the issue of indisputable proof. How does that work, again? If a miracle is amazing enough, that proves God did it? How amazing is enough? (A rod turning into a snake didn't quite make it. A snake devouring all the bad guys' snakes did. I guess.)
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Timmy, I am confident that God doesn't need a Plan A, B, C or any other than the one which He devised before the first words of creation were ever spoken, in order that that which He has determined might be accomplished. Thus it isn't that your hypothesis is not only utterly absurd (to say the least), but it evidences the thoughts (i.e., mindset) of one who is (apparently) destitute of understanding the manner in which God does things. I do not state this to belittle, harange, publicly embarrass or humiliate you, but am simply expressing how I understand the meaning or significance of your comments.
Now, with regards to the matter of tendering
"indisputable proofs" which serve to evidence God's abilities (i.e., power) to perform or accomplish things which lie beyond the capabilities of finite mortals like you and I.... I am persuaded that God oft-times performs what we might think to be an impossible act, a
"miracle" if you will, doing so to make the truth of the matter
"unbelievable."
Yes, you read that right! For instance, have you ever witnessed a serpent or an ass speaking as a human being; God speaking from a burning bush which is not being consumed by the flames; a man remaining "alive" in the belly of a whale for 3 whole days before being spewed out upon a beach; or, what is perhaps the greatest
"miracle" of all - a lifetime of despicable sinful acts being forever remitted through the seemingly simple act of submission of oneself to immersion in waters and having the baptizer verbally assert that the authority for doing so is by the authority of the
"name of the Lord Jesus Christ"?
Such so-called
"miracles" as these are simply unbelievable, right? Absolutely... yet they are ALL true! Thus we find that God presents us with the truth by making it, at first glimpse, utterly unbelievable. So what is it, we must ask ourselves, that makes such
"miracles" (as well as many others which He has, and does perform)
believable? The answer, of course, is pure and simple FAITH, without which it is impossible to please God.
So, concerning the question - what makes the things (i.e., miracles) which God does to be
"indisputable" truths? Simply, and only, because I believe it!! That, my friend, is what FAITH truly represents - pure and simple belief of those things which, to my finite mortal mind, would otherwise seem to be
"unbelievable!"
I don't suspect that you'll readily accept these musings as truth (albeit I hope that you will).
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