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Old 01-23-2012, 01:56 PM
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Re: Is your church multi-racial/multi-cultural?

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There is no scripture against interracial marriages no matter what anybody says.
I know some oldtimers that use Numbers 36:5-9 as their excuse
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:23 PM
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Re: Is your church multi-racial/multi-cultural?

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So I'm told theres scripture behind it... The only scripture I can find is inter-religion is wrong. I can promise u I can't find anyone that is exactly 8% indian, 25% dutch, 17% african american, & 50% england like I am!!!!! Honestly I have no clue what I am which is my point!!!
Sandra there are 3 different things that people attempt to use.

First is the "don’t be unequally yoked" line. I suspect that is the one you are thinking of. And you are right. to finish that it says "with unbelievers" and it doesn’t just mean in marriage.

The second are the numerous examples of the sons of Israel marrying gentile women. God frowned on it. But again, this is a misappropriation. Israel is a type and shadow of the church. It is again the attachment that draws a believer away to false gods.

Third is a totally stupid interpretation of the events surrounding Noah getting drunk and exactly who saw him in that drunken state. The racists try to suggest that God cursed the progenitors of the black races from that event. Its balderdash on its best day.

There is only one scripture that matters
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28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:25 PM
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Sandra there are 3 different things that people attempt to use.

First is the "don’t be unequally yoked" line. I suspect that is the one you are thinking of. And you are right. to finish that it says "with unbelievers" and it doesn’t just mean in marriage.

The second are the numerous examples of the sons of Israel marrying gentile women. God frowned on it. But again, this is a misappropriation. Israel is a type and shadow of the church. It is again the attachment that draws a believer away to false gods.

Third is a totally stupid interpretation of the events surrounding Noah getting drunk and exactly who saw him in that drunken state. The racists try to suggest that God cursed the progenitors of the black races from that event. Its balderdash on its best day.

There is only one scripture that matters
Galations 3:
27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise
Ferd, I salute you!
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:37 PM
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Sandra there are 3 different things that people attempt to use.

First is the "don’t be unequally yoked" line. I suspect that is the one you are thinking of. And you are right. to finish that it says "with unbelievers" and it doesn’t just mean in marriage.

The second are the numerous examples of the sons of Israel marrying gentile women. God frowned on it. But again, this is a misappropriation. Israel is a type and shadow of the church. It is again the attachment that draws a believer away to false gods.

Third is a totally stupid interpretation of the events surrounding Noah getting drunk and exactly who saw him in that drunken state. The racists try to suggest that God cursed the progenitors of the black races from that event. Its balderdash on its best day.

There is only one scripture that matters
Galations 3:
27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise
God only frowned on it when the wife was not a Jewish Proselyte (convert). Look at Boaz and Ruth. Ruth was a Moabite, but she said, Your God will be My God, and Your People, My People. God approved of that, and bore his Son out of that Blood Line. Hmm the blood line of Faith?

He did how ever frown upon marrying the "Unconverted".
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:09 PM
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God only frowned on it when the wife was not a Jewish Proselyte (convert). Look at Boaz and Ruth. Ruth was a Moabite, but she said, Your God will be My God, and Your People, My People. God approved of that, and bore his Son out of that Blood Line. Hmm the blood line of Faith?

He did how ever frown upon marrying the "Unconverted".
You are right. I completly agree
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Sandra there are 3 different things that people attempt to use.

First is the "don’t be unequally yoked" line. I suspect that is the one you are thinking of. And you are right. to finish that it says "with unbelievers" and it doesn’t just mean in marriage.

The second are the numerous examples of the sons of Israel marrying gentile women. God frowned on it. But again, this is a misappropriation. Israel is a type and shadow of the church. It is again the attachment that draws a believer away to false gods.

Third is a totally stupid interpretation of the events surrounding Noah getting drunk and exactly who saw him in that drunken state. The racists try to suggest that God cursed the progenitors of the black races from that event. Its balderdash on its best day.

There is only one scripture that matters
Galations 3:
27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise
Thanks! This helps a lot!
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Sandra in the south there is something called the 'one drop rule' which means if you have one drop of black blood in you then you are black even if you look white. So by those standards you would be expected to marry a black man.

I finally agree with Ferd about something... it is completely stupid. I do think it's sad Ferd that you had to verbally caution your friends/family not to use those kinds of terms. One of the big blessings of not being racially 'pure' is that we never have to worry about all that

I did not leave my church over racial issues only but it was a consideration. They were bigots and made no attempt to hide it from me presuming me white. I heard the N word in the sanctuary more than once but never over the pulpit. The pastor even invited a black family to church once and then made a huge deal over it to the point that it made everyone uncomfortable. He really wanted a token black family so that the church would appear to be more balanced but never would have wanted larger numbers of minorities. He was trying so hard to prove how with the times he was... A few months later he refused to marry my friends daughter because her fiance was black. He was from out of town and they wanted the wedding in the brides hometown and church. They had a civil wedding and found another church and so did her parents.

It would be hard for me to even guess Sandra if you should stay or go but if you feel that they are not sincerely loving toward you or value you less because of your race then yes maybe it might be time to look around.
I'm totally white, I mean peach-ish... Some days in the summer sumwat red... Wat matters the skin color... If we are all bought with the blood of Jesus Christ???

Sorry ppls I was really fired up last nite due to seeing a picture of a confederate flag in my pastors sons bedrm, which is in my pastors house! Confederate flag... Racists????

Btw I'm pretty sure I'm having a meeting with them bout somethings pretty soon, and I'm sure this will come out, which I'm afraid isn't going to be pretty when it does!!!
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I'm totally white, I mean peach-ish... Some days in the summer sumwat red... Wat matters the skin color... If we are all bought with the blood of Jesus Christ???

Sorry ppls I was really fired up last nite due to seeing a picture of a confederate flag in my pastors sons bedrm, which is in my pastors house! Confederate flag... Racists????

Btw I'm pretty sure I'm having a meeting with them bout somethings pretty soon, and I'm sure this will come out, which I'm afraid isn't going to be pretty when it does!!!
Remember that the Confederate Flag doesn't mean the same to many in the South that it does in the North. In the same token the Civil War wasn't about slavery in the South, rather it was about states rights. Even in the North it wasn't about slavery, rather it was about keeping the Union.

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Before you blow a gasket realize that the Confederate flag is a symbol of Southern pride to many southerners... Not white pride or racial prejudice. It has no anti-black sentiment at all to some. It is just part of their heritage much the way that other areas have some secondary symbol after their primary symbol as identifiers. It is meant to build them up and not to put any one else down.

If this is a young person who was taken from his roots environment and transported to yankee land against his will he may just be trying to hang on to his heritage.

Be sure that you have all the facts before you go in with guns blazin'. I'd keep it very meek and mild and maybe slip in a question about the flag and what it symbolizes to them rather than making bold statements and later looking like a fool. That's just me but it is a hard won lesson from doing it the other way too many times to count. Harsh words can never be taken back no matter how we wish it were so.

Peace.

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