No lust is not sin, when I was married and my x had chocolate she knew I wanted it and would hide it from me. I would find it and eat it and was happy.
it tasted good and was worth sleeping on the coutch.
A man who lust others chocolate wrote this.
No lust is not sin, when I was married and my x had chocolate she knew I wanted it and would hide it from me. I would find it and eat it and was happy.
it tasted good and was worth sleeping on the coutch.
A man who lust others chocolate wrote this.
Well, it's true, stolen chocolate is the best.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I think if you look at it as pleasure or delight then it is not sin itself. The specific sin would be like "Lust of the Flesh".
Lust
Originally meant any longing desire, however innocent, De 12:15 14:26. But, in tacit acknowledgment of the depravity of man's passions, general usage soon attached the idea of guilt to the word; and now it usually denotes carnal, lascivious desire. In Galatians 5:17, we see that the aspirations of the heart renewed by the Holy Spirit, oppose and will subdue the native evil desires, 1 1 Corinthians 15:57; but in the unrenewed heart these reign uncontrolled, lead to greater and greater outwards sin, and secure eternal death, James 1:14,15.
Remember, when forming doctrine it is never wise to use the English word. There are 5 Hebrew and 5 Greek words that are interpreted as "Lust". So essentially 5 different meanings.
I believe lust is one of the most serious sins, as it is one of the hardest to control. I recently spoke with a friend of mine, and quoted Matthew 5:28. I was trying to explain how I felt about that scripture, but I was quickly cut off with the response "I can't control my mind so that's not a sin". It amazes me how quickly people are to push the word aside for their own pleasures.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
And in terms of the basic definition, it's not a sin to have desire (lust) for non-sinful things, is it?
All of us WANT TO SIN. That is what temptation is. It is not sin to be tempted so it is not sin to want to sin. It is sin to fulfill that want and that lust, though.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
I believe lust is one of the most serious sins, as it is one of the hardest to control. I recently spoke with a friend of mine, and quoted Matthew 5:28. I was trying to explain how I felt about that scripture, but I was quickly cut off with the response "I can't control my mind so that's not a sin". It amazes me how quickly people are to push the word aside for their own pleasures.
I'm going to throw something out here. It's touchy. Not sure what to make of it. I've read various interpretations of this text. Share your thoughts on this perspective. Here goes...
Technically your friend might be on to something according to Lewis Smede (theologian). Jesus said,
Matthew 5:28
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
It can be argued that Jesus isn't talking about normal physical attraction or even sexual thoughts and/or fantasy. But rather, Jesus might be saying that if a man purposefully looks upon a woman only with the actual intent to use her to gratify his physical needs, he's committed adultery in his heart.
For example, if a single young man looks at a woman in a coffee shop, admires her beauty and purposefully considers talking to her to "hook up" later, he's committed adultery before he says, "Hello." However, if a single young man looks at a woman in a coffee shop, admires her beauty, and considers how pleasant it would be if she were his to have, he hasn't committed adultery in his heart. The issue is motive of the heart.
Few would say that an adolescent who is just discovering intimate feelings and emotions and/or has "fantasies" is committing adultery. Few would say that an engaged couple wherein one of them fantasizes about, thinks about, and longs for their wedding night is committing adultery. Few would argue that if a young man finds a woman physically attractive, has thoughts towards her, and asks her on a date, that he's committed adultery in his heart.
Sexual attraction, desire, and interest nearly always starts when two meet... that's before marriage. So it's arguable that Jesus isn't saying we should be asexual beings... but rather we should not go out for the purpose of seeking and finding one to sin with.
Also, the last observation is that Jesus says it is adultery in the heart... not in actual deed. Therefore Jesus may not be addressing a sin committed... but rather Jesus might be addressing the nature of a sinful heart that is inclined towards sin.
Sadly, many young men (and women) live their lives feeling condemned over normal and healthy sexual thoughts and interests because of how this verse is traditionally interpreted.
Your friend is right... he might feel sexually attracted to various women or has had sexual thoughts about an attractive woman. But that is how God designed him. His healthy. He cannot help that entirely. He's a man. However, if in his heart he is seeking women out and actually desiring to act on the temptation... he has an adulterous heart.
I'm going to throw something out here. It's touchy. Not sure what to make of it. I've read various interpretations of this text. Share your thoughts on this perspective. Here goes...
Technically your friend might be on to something according to Lewis Smede (theologian). Jesus said,
Matthew 5:28
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
It can be argued that Jesus isn't talking about normal physical attraction or even sexual thoughts and/or fantasy. But rather, Jesus might be saying that if a man purposefully looks upon a woman only with the actual intent to use her to gratify his physical needs, he's committed adultery in his heart.
For example, if a single young man looks at a woman in a coffee shop, admires her beauty and purposefully considers talking to her to "hook up" later, he's committed adultery before he says, "Hello." However, if a single young man looks at a woman in a coffee shop, admires her beauty, and considers how pleasant it would be if she were his to have, he hasn't committed adultery in his heart. The issue is motive of the heart.
Few would say that an adolescent who is just discovering intimate feelings and emotions and/or has "fantasies" is committing adultery. Few would say that an engaged couple wherein one of them fantasizes about, thinks about, and longs for their wedding night is committing adultery. Few would argue that if a young man finds a woman physically attractive, has thoughts towards her, and asks her on a date, that he's committed adultery in his heart.
Sexual attraction, desire, and interest nearly always starts when two meet... that's before marriage. So it's arguable that Jesus isn't saying we should be asexual beings... but rather we should not go out for the purpose of seeking and finding one to sin with.
Also, the last observation is that Jesus says it is adultery in the heart... not in actual deed. Therefore Jesus may not be addressing a sin committed... but rather Jesus might be addressing the nature of a sinful heart that is inclined towards sin.
Sadly, many young men (and women) live their lives feeling condemned over normal and healthy sexual thoughts and interests because of how this verse is traditionally interpreted.
Your friend is right... he might feel sexually attracted to various women or has had sexual thoughts about an attractive woman. But that is how God designed him. His healthy. He cannot help that entirely. He's a man. However, if in his heart he is seeking women out and actually desiring to act on the temptation... he has an adulterous heart.
I respect that view, and I will most DEFINITELY pray about, think about, and talk to my pastor about that. The thing is I believe in spiritual warfare, and I believe in a spirit of perversion. (Makes right seem wrong, and wrong seem right) And if I give that spirit one fraction of a space to work, it will grow. I know how my own mind works, and if I do give that fraction, it will grow. However brother, your words have made me consider that scripture out of the one way that I tend to look at things, and I appreciate that.
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