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Old 02-03-2012, 02:12 PM
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Well, sure, God knows what we need better than we do, right?
Way. That doesn't mean surrender is acquiescence to some life of drudgery. A king and a god are both servants...

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Old 02-03-2012, 02:21 PM
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Exactly, as hard as that may be for you. Trust that more growth for your brother, who this is really about, resulted also. If your beef is that people die, then see how far we have come here, despite ourselves; our infant mortality is impressively low. If you are upset that your brother died for purely personal reasons, the day of a man's death is better than the day of his birth, and he most likely would not have returned if given a choice, which evidence would indicate he did. Oh, and your Father is not beyond raising you with a brother and taking him, having invented "the day of a man's death," and thus fully understanding it, just to show both your brother and you, and the 10 other people affected, all separate lessons. Any unresolved questions about the state of your brother's soul, or something? Take comfort in the fact that we do not have a very good grasp of this lost/saved thing, and that your brother was happy where he found himself, or probably could have returned. I'm sorry for your loss.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:24 PM
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We spend much energy in wasteful directions as a means of avoidance; which just means that we all seek to avoid truth some kind of way, whether we realize it or not, and this can be a way.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:26 PM
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We spend much energy in wasteful directions as a means of avoidance; which just means that we all seek to avoid truth some kind of way, whether we realize it or not, and this can be a way.
Yes, I'm sure that's it. I am avoiding the truth that God wanted my brother to die, for some reason. And that the day of his death was better than the day of his birth.
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I've been asked a number of times, what am I doing here? I answer, with tongue partly in cheek, that I have a burden for the lost. Then I go on to say I like prodding folks, making them think in ways they may not often do, challenging them, making them think about why the believe what they believe, etc. Besides, you guys are fun. (A lot of the time. )

But lately, I've been wondering, is that all? What would I really like to see happen? Would it make me happy to make converts to my way of thinking? Well, honestly, yes it would! But, short of that, here's something that would make me happy (heathen that I am): less certainty!

I look back on the time I was in the dogma, and I understand the reasoning behind it; why you think you have to say you are 100% sure about this or that; telling people that arguing with the Bible is arguing with God, etc. But is it really necessary? Would it kill you to add "in my opinion" on some of these statements? Can you admit that even the idea that the Bible is God's Word is an opinion? Hey, some opinions are right, after all.

(BTW, I don't always include "IMO" in my posts. But it's always there, if you see it or not. )
I always thought the reason you were here was that you were looking to be picked to be on a church board!
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Yes, I'm sure that's it. I am avoiding the truth that God wanted my brother to die, for some reason. And that the day of his death was better than the day of his birth.
I would say that these aren't meant to substitute as a reason for anything.
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I always thought the reason you were here was that you were looking to be picked to be on a church board!
Well, if I remember right NOW offered him a position.....
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:51 PM
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Well, if I remember right NOW offered him a position.....
We're still in the negotiation phase.
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