Denying the Lord and still Saved?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

"Why have you forsaken me?"


It wasn't a curse to God or a denial of God to those killing Him but he WAS giving into despair at that moment.

Randy, that was what Jesus said when dying. That was addressed only to God. He only spoke to the one man on the cross that was with Him and promised him paradise for his repentance.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

So, we are saved by works?

If you consider repentance a work, then your interpretation of my comment would be accurate. However, I said nothing about anything except repentance.

I seem to remember that you do not actually believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and further you have shown that you are rather ignorant of many of the passages contained in it as well as much of church history.

It is true that many of us have not had to suffer as the Apostles and Prophets. However, there have been thousands and likely even millions who have suffered and died. The accounts of their faithfulness can be found in many places. The RCC (for all of its false doctrine) gives us a clue into many of the deaths of the Apostles and the men who followed them. Foxe's Book of Martyrs is filled with those who have suffered horrible deaths for Christ, and their faithfulness. And last, we have many reports from within the last 150 years of the same.