Born of water and Spirit to enter heaven

skraito · #1 03-09-2012, 10:32 PM

5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

what is born of water and born of spirit here mean by Jesus Christ?

So only those who born of water and spirit can enter heaven.

Hi Guys,

Let me explain john 3:5 what the Lord mean by born of water and born of spirit. As it is so important to our salvation.

Born of water.

The Bible tells us that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom 3:23). That is why Jesus said that the only way you can see the kingdom of God is to be “born again” (Jn 3:3).

How can that happen? you ask. Can a person just crawl back into his mother and be born again? someone asked Jesus.

Jesus replied, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God” (Jn 3:5). And He enabled us to be born again of water through water baptism.

The Bible calls baptism the “washing of regeneration” (Titus 3:5) because it effects a spiritual transformation. When you are immersed in the living water, your sinful being dies and is buried, and you are clothed with a new life—the life of Jesus Christ (Col 2:11-13).

So Water baptism is necessary for our salvation as it is during water baptism that your sin is forgiven.

How Can Water Baptism Wash Away Sins?

The Bible tells us that “according to the law almost all things are purged with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission” (Heb 9:22). Any covenant was dedicated with blood. No amount of sacrifice, however, could atone for mankind’s sins and fully restore our relationship with God. The only means of redemption was through the Lord’s own blood (Col 1:14; Rev 1:5). Jesus Christ’s blood seals a new and everlasting covenant between God and His children (Heb 12:24).

If baptism were merely immersion in water, then it would be nothing but a religious rite, since water cannot take away guilt. But the mystery of baptism lies in the profound unity of water, blood, and the Holy Spirit.

After Jesus died on the cross, “one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out. And he who has seen has testified, and his testimony is true; and he knows that he is telling the truth, so that you may believe” (Jn 19:34-35).

John, a disciple of Jesus, witnessed how Jesus Christ poured out His blood along with water and opened the fountain of cleansing. He explained the meaning of what he saw:

This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth…there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and these three agree as one (1 Jn 5:6-8).

Baptism is where water and blood come together under the eternal Spirit of God. Jesus Christ arose from death by the Holy Spirit (1 Pet 3:18) to enter heaven as our mediator before God (Heb 9:15, 24). The Holy Spirit, which God gives to believers, testifies that Jesus is alive and that His blood cleanses us (Heb 9:14) today. So while a sinner is immersed in water physically, his spiritual being is being cleansed in the blood of Christ (Heb 10:22: “washed” = immersed).

No sin is too great to be forgiven. God is ready to pardon everyone who turns back to Him and seeks cleansing. But you must first accept Jesus Christ and His gospel of salvation, confess your sins before God, and determine to follow His words.

“Repent,” the apostle Peter tells us, “and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins” (Acts 2:38).

Notice it is not at repent and accepting Jesus Christ our sins are forgiven but through baptism.

So born of water mean water baptism.

How about born of Spirit?

Titus 3:5

New King James Version (NKJV)

5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit

How can we be renew by the Holy Spirit if we dont have Holy Spirit in us? the other question we should ask when actually do i receive the Holy Spirit. Is it when I confess Jesus Christ is saviour? or during baptism or if not when?

The only evidence that someone has received Holy Spirit is when he can speak in tounge. But why some said Speaking in tounge is just a gift and not everyone can speak in tounge. The question should we ask do all speak in tounge if we received Holy Spirit? the answer is Yes all speak in tounge. Those who cant speak in tounge mean they didnt received the Holy Spirit yet.

Another question that we should ask. So many churches today claim they have the Holy Spirit. So which one is right? do they received the same spirit which is Holy Spirit?

John 16:13
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

Here the Lord call Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth and will guide us into all truth. If someone said baptism is not necessary for our salvation and they claim they received Holy Spirit how is that spirit is the Holy Spirit. For if we do some math calculation 1+1 = 2 and those that said 1+1 = 2.1 although miss by one point one is not the truth.

So Another question that we should ask. Have you really born by water and by Spirit? for those who are not born of water and spirit will not enter heaven. So make sure ure sure with your own salvation.

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Jay · #2 03-09-2012, 11:16 PM

Baptism in Jesus' name and the infilling of the Holy Ghost to be so brief as to do disservice to the topic.

Timmy · #3 03-10-2012, 06:43 AM

So, what you're saying is you have to be born, then born again, and born again.

Austin · #4 03-10-2012, 07:42 AM

He was really telling a Jew who didn't want anyone to know he was talking to Jesus in private, that he was going to have to make a public confession and have a change of heart before he could enter the kingdom of God.[ or become a part of it]

Public confessions to attach ones self to a religion came in the form of public baptism. A cleansing from one unto the other, washing away the past and taking on the new.

Then this Jew acted like he didn't know what Jesus was talking about by replying with a stupid question like, can I enter into my mothers womb again? Da!!
So Jesus sat him straight by saying, That which is flesh is flesh and that which is spirit is spirit.

Man I have heard this taught and preached so many ways. It's a simple message of, turn from the old covenant and follow me in this new covenant. Confess me before all if you really believe in your heart that I am the messiah sent from God.

Nicodemus knew what Jesus was talking about the first time he said it. He didn't want to come down from his position in the temple and in the community and make a public change. He like so many thought he could receive this teaching from Jesus and hold it privately, just like people do today.

Timmy · #5 03-10-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin

He was really telling a Jew who didn't want anyone to know he was talking to Jesus in private, that he was going to have to make a public confession and have a change of heart before he could enter the kingdom of God.[ or become a part of it]

Public confessions to attach ones self to a religion came in the form of public baptism. A cleansing from one unto the other, washing away the past and taking on the new.

Then this Jew acted like he didn't know what Jesus was talking about by replying with a stupid question like, can I enter into my mothers womb again? Da!!
So Jesus sat him straight by saying, That which is flesh is flesh and that which is spirit is spirit.

Man I have heard this taught and preached so many ways. It's a simple message of, turn from the old covenant and follow me in this new covenant. Confess me before all if you really believe in your heart that I am the messiah sent from God.

Nicodemus knew what Jesus was talking about the first time he said it. He didn't want to come down from his position in the temple and in the community and make a public change. He like so many thought he could receive this teaching from Jesus and hold it privately, just like people do today.

Salvation by works.

Austin · #6 03-10-2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Salvation by works.

Not salvation by works. Jesus was calling him out to make a stand before the Jews and religious leaders of the time.

The whole thing hinges on the fact that this man came to Jesus in the night privately, he didn't want to be seen.

Yet he knew this was the messiah as promised.

Jesus just plain out told him that he was going to have to change his heart, faith, and religion and confess Jesus as the Christ before all or he could not enter the kingdom of God..

To obtain salvation yes there is one work that must be accomplished, and that is to claim by faith what is rightfully yours.

Timmy · #7 03-10-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin

Not salvation by works. Jesus was calling him out to make a stand before the Jews and religious leaders of the time.

The whole thing hinges on the fact that this man came to Jesus in the night privately, he didn't want to be seen.

Yet he knew this was the messiah as promised.

Jesus just plain out told him that he was going to have to change his heart, faith, and religion and confess Jesus as the Christ before all or he could not enter the kingdom of God..

To obtain salvation yes there is one work that must be accomplished, and that is to claim by faith what is rightfully yours.

The things Jesus said he had to do are not works?

Austin · #8 03-10-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

The things Jesus said he had to do are not works?

What's your point? To gain salvation verses keeping salvation, is that your point?

If I give you a gift are you going to stand there and just look at it, or you gonna take it?

Baptism? yea that is a work. confession with the mouth yea that's a work. But isn't living righteous also a work. but does it come from effort or nature?

Dordrecht · #9 03-10-2012, 12:49 PM

Salvation is not by works.
It's a free gift through Jesus Christ and what He did on the cross.
Receive it by accepting it and you are born again.

It's that simple and not complicated at all.

Timmy · #10 03-10-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin

What's your point? To gain salvation verses keeping salvation, is that your point?

If I give you a gift are you going to stand there and just look at it, or you gonna take it?

Baptism? yea that is a work. confession with the mouth yea that's a work. But isn't living righteous also a work. but does it come from effort or nature?

There are many scriptures the give works as a requirement to gain salvation. I just think it's funny that so many people (not everyone, btw) ignore them, or explain them as saying something they don't say, and focus on faith and grace. And yes, there are scriptures that say salvation is by faith and not by works. And yes, I know you think you must not admit contradictions. Like I said, I just think it's funny.