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Originally Posted by Titus2woman
You have started to contradict yourself frog. There are USUALLY no remains. That does not stop someone from having a funeral if they desire... when people die in manners where remains are not left one can still have a funeral with an empty casket representing the decedent or a memorial service or NOT... It's up to the families. Most choose to grieve privately for babies lost early in pregnancy as a public announcement would often go to those who did not even know they had ever been pregnant. Also sadly women still feel some shame at losing a pregnancy... many will ask what they 'did wrong to cause it'... So it's not something they want to share with everyone.
How is it that you are judging others grief or using it as a yardstick to try to prove that a fetus is not a human? This is twisting off into something bizarre and convoluted. I have to concur with AYR that you are simply willfully deluded on this topic. So peace out frog.
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I must say you said very well a couple of points that I wanted to make... just because there is a grave, or a ceremony, doesn't mean there are remains. But by that same token, just because there isn't a ceremony or remains at a marked grave, does not mean that there wasn't any mourning, or grieving over the loss of someone. That pregnancy, is a very intimate, and in the first few weeks, extremely private thing for the mom and the dad, and very few others. Therefore, their mourning is going to be much more private of the loss (remains or not), than with a family member who has interacted with the whole world for years.
And you are so right about the unfortunate stigma some women still feel with miscarriages and still born births. I know of at least 2 women that went through such guilt, and even shame regarding their miscarriages. The husband wanted to at least have some type of memorial, but the poor mom just felt like it was a confirmation of some sort of shortcoming or disappointment at her hands.
The argument of saying the lack of public memorials to miscarriages and still borns made by our fellow poster is frankly a straw man argument.
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