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Old 05-16-2007, 03:58 PM
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1. Welcome sign? You mean like the southern border????
YES, I HATE HAVING OPEN BORDERS!!



2. We were told that the evil Moslem Islamofascist terrorists hate our freedoms, and want to conduct terrorist attacks to destroy us and our freedoms.


Well, let's look at that.

Question: Can a bunch of ragheads in the desert backed by a bunch of hashish-smoking third world tin pot dictatorships really "Destroy America and take away our freedoms?"
NOT ON THE SAME SCALE AS WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO IRAQ


Question: Why is it that - in order to "save America" and "protect our freedoms" - we are told we have to do away with the 4th Amendment, the 5th Amendment, and habeus corpus, we have to enshrine torture and secret military tribunals as officially sanctioned policy, we need secret CIA-run prisons scattered around the world, people snatched and "disappeared" (no habeus corpus, remember?), Pentegon "advisors" advising on what major news networks can and cannot say, a White House office of propaganda feeding FAKE NEWS to not only foreign news reporters, but DOMESTIC NEWS REPORTERS AS WELL (ministry of propaganda, anyone?)...
DUDE, CHILL! I SAID THAT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE ARE LOSING OUR RIGHTS..


Why is it we have to lose our freedoms in order to "save democracy"?
WE DON'T HAVE TO, THAT'S JUST IT... AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND.. MAYBE GLENN BECK WAS RIGHT.. HE SAID THAT NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN REAL NEWS.. THEY WANT REPORTS ON PARIS HILTON GOING TO JAIL... LINDSAY LOHAN GETTING DRUNK, ETC..


We talk about how evil these Arabs are, but what's the difference between Saddam's torture chambers and our own Abu Ghraib festivities?
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE USE OF TORTURE, AND I SEE VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE
Berk, you need to realize that you are conversing with a fellow that sleeps under his bed for fear that the governement is about to enslave the masses.
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