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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
Our greatest desire, or want may be acceptance and/or love... but you said it was our greatest NEED. Words are important... and I think you were very loose there with that one. Our greatest NEED is RIGHTEOUSNESS. All the love in the world wont' do you any good if you aren't RIGHTEOUS before God having been washed in the blood of Jesus.
There will be people that Jesus, the church, and others loved.... heaped praise upon... encouraged... that will still be in Hell... there are children there in hell today of parents that gave them tons of chances, bailed them from jail, forgave them over and over, prayed for them, interceded for them, told them they could make it and encouraged them... that the Holy Ghost pulled on the heartstrings of... that God even wrapped Himself in flesh to give Himself for... that God Himself desired they would never perish and he offered them love.... but they still went to Hell.
No, this is some dangerous stuff your touting here. If you called it our greatest DESIRE... I'd have no issue with you... none at all. But you said it's our GREATEST NEED... and friend... I don't need love as much as I need RIGHTEOUSNESS. I need to be saved more than I need someone giving me kuddos and encouragement. My greatest need has more to do with eternity than my self esteem and self concept.
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
The world God created absolutely was wonderful and here to enjoy... the world we have now is not that same world... it is a cursed, sin filled, depraved, evil place... and we are not citizens of this world... we are ambassadors... not residents.
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Where are like buttons when you need them? I agree with all that you have said and more.
The only exception that I have is that God very plainly stated that there were people that He abhorred, hated, despised, and rejected because of their unrepentant sin. I believe that man can so strive against God that it causes Him to despise and hate that individual. This was true of Esau, various generations of Israelites, various Gentile nations around them, various peoples who dwelt in the land before them, as well as others.