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Old 05-16-2012, 09:35 PM
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Re: Repentance, Holiness, and the Church

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I think achieving it is possible, with sacrifice. Can a child become an adult?
Maybe not an exact parallel--but then why "Be ye perfect?" Your stance there would make Christ's words of no effect?

And @ Muslims up there, I have to say that the Muslim view as I understand it is "submit to Christ, BAM; but skip the Original Sin."
Speaking in relation to being human without the intervention of the cross...

There is no way one can be perfect or attain the state of perfection. God says for all have sinned. If you've even committed on crime against God then you are not perfect and can not be perfect. Surely you've read in the bible "a little leaven leavens the whole lump."

Now "Be ye perfect.' What could that mean? Jesus when saying this also said "You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

Yes Jesus listed all these things to do and then said to be perfect. So if you've gone against even one of those things that He talked about you are not perfect. Are you perfect? Of course not. Remember that He was not talking to a blood bought church yet.

Jesus's whole point was that you are not perfect and can't be! Hence the reason we need Him. So that God will view us as being perfect like Jesus Christ is. Just like Jesus was viewed as the criminal and punished in place of us. Isaiah 53:10 Yet it was the will of the LORD to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
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