A Wrecked Church! - Page 28

HeavenBound · #**271** 07-15-2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Lawyers don't like to get mired down in church disputes. They can work themselves to the bone and the next thing they know someone had a prayer meeting and everything they worked for is forgiven and gone. Those are facts. OR the exact opposite they can work tirelessly and no one is made happy.
ANY bylaws can be voted out one meeting.

The present leadership has fixed it where any voting goes his way they aren't following the by-laws anyhow. I was kicked out of the Church for speaking out in a meeting just like everyone else did and for walking out on a Pastor who was known to have disrespected our late Pastor often. I was 1 of at least 15 who walked out, but, the only 1 mailed a certified letter taking away my membership to the Church. My husband left with me, he was sent a letter to vote, that he met all the criteria of a member in good standing.

rgcraig · #**272** 07-15-2012, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavenBound

I don't know if the daughter chose this man or not, all I know is our dear departed pastor put his assistant pastor in place as pastor in January of this year. I will agree that at times our deceased pastor suffered from dementia. The point is and should be no matter who picked him the majority of the Church members do not want him. We had a vote and now he is trying to overturn that vote which he lost. Everyone is trying to blame the daughter she has no power except what the acting pastor and the Trustee Board allows her to have. I do not care for this woman, but I do believe in putting blame where it belongs, she can't help it if the men can be led around like sheep.

I agree, the men should stand up to her and be the leaders, but I can't agree with the "she can't help it" part - - she's taking advantage of them being spineless it sounds like.

HeavenBound · #**273** 07-15-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

Since this church is most affiliated with the ALJC, perhaps some of the higher-ups (I shudder to say that, knowing my own situation....) could perhaps have a hearing as such over this situation. I personally think it would be better to get a jury of about 7 non-biased blue collar workers from an ALJC church and have a trial and a vote with an official simply presiding. This way it stays in the church and let both sides let the results be binding.

I like that idea if any would do this we would love to hear from them.

StillStanding · #**274** 07-15-2012, 07:49 AM

I'm not a legal person by any means, but if civil courts are going to eventually get involved, why not get an injunction to prevent the farce "invitation only" vote from taking place? After all, it appears that the "powers that be" were quick to threaten a civil lawsuit when it was recommend that an outside respected bishop help during the tradition period. I saw that as a reasonable compromise. I believe the courts would agree.

StillStanding · #**275** 07-15-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by StillStanding

My thoughts and prayers are with the members of the "wrecked church", as today will certainly be an emotional day for all of them! I pray they never lose their joy, their hope and their faith! But.....most of all, don't lose your praise! ( somebody hold the mule while I dance a little!)

PUSH. (Pray Until Something Happens!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ioDkHjXtbg

Rapture 1 · #**276** 07-15-2012, 08:32 AM

If you knew this daughter, you wouldn't even ask that question! She would never let anyone take control. She has never been a spiritual person. She has mostly stayed in the back of the church somewhere, while church was going on until recently. Now then she sits up close to the front.

Cindy · #**277** 07-15-2012, 08:33 AM

Seems like more than one has "dementia". Good grief.

KeptByTheWord · #**278** 07-15-2012, 08:36 AM

I will spend time in prayer today for this hurting group of people, that the Lord Almighty would step into this situation, and heal it in a way that only HE CAN! Be assured that God cares, and God is listening.

ILG · #**279** 07-15-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavenBound

I don't know if the daughter chose this man or not, all I know is our dear departed pastor put his assistant pastor in place as pastor in January of this year. I will agree that at times our deceased pastor suffered from dementia. The point is and should be no matter who picked him the majority of the Church members do not want him. We had a vote and now he is trying to overturn that vote which he lost. Everyone is trying to blame the daughter she has no power except what the acting pastor and the Trustee Board allows her to have. I do not care for this woman, but I do believe in putting blame where it belongs, she can't help it if the men can be led around like sheep.

Sounds like you have a point there.

ILG · #**280** 07-15-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavenBound

I like that idea if any would do this we would love to hear from them.

I think you would have to get an official or some outside unbiased party involved to see if they would do this. Any official will be somewhat biased because he will be related to the friend of the friend and on and on. If you could find an official who could just administrate and let both sides speak and have an unbiased jury decide the matter (possibly very hard to find one) that might work but it might not.

There are Christian mediation groups that specialize in this and they would be completely unbiased.