A Wrecked Church! - Page 58

StillStanding · #**571** 08-08-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapture 1

You don't care about the lost!! Give me a break. Do you honestly think we haven't run across your kind millions of time? And we sure don't feel intimidated by people like you. You arn't worth wasting time talking to!!

Don't feed the troll!

tv1a · #**572** 08-08-2012, 04:17 PM

Several non biblical solutions.

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I've heard several solutions!!!

tv1a · #**573** 08-08-2012, 05:04 PM

Don't flatter yourself You haven't come across anyone close to me. The Bible says tale bearers will not make it to heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:7 says it's better to be defrauded than to embarass Christ in a public setting. Call me naïve, but I tend to believe the Bible means what it says.

Kudos to the congregation for sticking with the pastor.

Why do you feel intimidated? I'm not worth talking to? Do you feel more comfrtable with gossipers, trouble makers and tale bearers? If so you're wasting your time with me. You can't clean a pig who wants to wallow around in misery.

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Originally Posted by Rapture 1

You don't care about the lost!! Give me a break. Do you honestly think we haven't run across your kind millions of time? And we sure don't feel intimidated by people like you. You arn't worth wasting time talking to!!

Rapture 1 · #**574** 08-08-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

Don't flatter yourself You haven't come across anyone close to me. The Bible says tale bearers will not make it to heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:7 says it's better to be defrauded than to embarass Christ in a public setting. Call me naïve, but I tend to believe the Bible means what it says.

Kudos to the congregation for sticking with the pastor.

Why do you feel intimidated? I'm not worth talking to? Do you feel more comfrtable with gossipers, trouble makers and tale bearers? If so you're wasting your time with me. You can't clean a pig who wants to wallow around in misery.

ILG · #**575** 08-08-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

Don't flatter yourself You haven't come across anyone close to me. The Bible says tale bearers will not make it to heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:7 says it's better to be defrauded than to embarass Christ in a public setting. Call me naïve, but I tend to believe the Bible means what it says.

Kudos to the congregation for sticking with the pastor.

Why do you feel intimidated? I'm not worth talking to? Do you feel more comfrtable with gossipers, trouble makers and tale bearers? If so you're wasting your time with me. You can't clean a pig who wants to wallow around in misery.

Why kudos for sticking with the pastor? Do you know the situation well?

tv1a · #**576** 08-08-2012, 07:00 PM

There's something to be said for a congregation that doesn't kick its pastor to the curb. You can tell the pastor was loved by the congregation. With that said something should have been done to ensure a smooth transition. It didn't happen. Mistakes were made and this is the result.

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Why kudos for sticking with the pastor? Do you know the situation well?

tv1a · #**577** 08-08-2012, 07:36 PM

You need to sue the doctor for malpractice for messing up your lobotomy.

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tv1a · #**578** 08-08-2012, 07:44 PM

It is rare church splits do NOT happen when leadership changes. Some splits are more severe than others. Larger churches can absorb the loss. But splits devestates the local congregation. I think it is okay if people leave without causing a fuss if they don't like the direction the leadership is going. I think God will honor your decision if you leave early with the right attitude. The last church I left was the church I grew up in 20 years ago. I got married and started attending the church my wife went. I left without any regrets.

Rapture 1 · #**579** 08-08-2012, 07:53 PM

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You need to sue the doctor for malpractice for messing up your lobotomy.

I will give you CREDIT today. You have made me laugh. I don't think you are as bad as you come across!!!!

CC1 · #**580** 08-08-2012, 11:19 PM

I remember way back in Bible College in the late 70's I was in a class where they talked about the importance of a pastor knowing when to retire. The sad truth at that time and even much later is that many Pentecostal churches were not funding any kind of retirement for their pastor and many pastors opted out of paying into Social Security because they could.

This meant for many pastors either no income or a significant drop in income if they retired. Sometimes churches who had not funded any kind of retirement for their pastor would find arrangements negotiated between his successor and him to give a portion of the tithes to the retired pastor for some period of time. Of course many smaller churches could not bear this burden as they could hardly pay the current pastor.

Pentecost has really changed as it has grown through the years. From preachers barely getting by to ones who now make triple digit incomes and use it to invest in real estate, income properties, etc.

Probably the strangest investment I heard about was when about 20 years ago a UPC pastor friend of mine told me of a conversation he had with a neighboring pastor who was so conservative he didn't even wear a watch. That pastor was sharing his investment portfolio with my pastor friend and mentioned that he had just invested in a movie video rental vending machine at a local factory! Of course none of his church members knew about it.