You sound like the bitter person....and you say this same thing to almost everybody who disagrees with you.
You know why? Cause out of the 7 forums I am a member of, this one is notorious for people reading more into a post than what the person says. Many posters in this forum, which you are majorly one of, think because someone sounds a lot like, and sees things a lot like some other folks in your past, that you can take all their vileness, nastiness, issues, bad history, negative experiences, and characteristics.... and apply them to me as well.
You think because there are similarities, you can take your broad brush and paint it all over me, when I didn't say or do what they did. I have absolutely no bitterness... but I'm not going to be all nicety nice, play patty cake with someone who will be as so disrespectful to even read what I actually post... but rather just try to pounce on me with their snarky, poisonous, vitriole.
I've been accused of being too black and white and too plain about some things... but you know what? many of you that have such negative connotations and associations from your past because someone that was conservative Oneness did you wrong... maybe even quite a few of them did you wrong... you believe you can put us all in the same box... when I've never pastored you, never preached to you, and never had a relationship with you. That is the worst of all legalism right there... because someone fits part of the characteristics and has some similarities, their guilty of someone else's crimes.
The very tolerance of which you folks who have been "free'd" from that bondage seem to want from the more conservative is a luxury your not even willing to at first offer. Seems to me that the conservative Oneness churches of which you bemoan and begrudge aren't holding a monopoly on hypocrisy.
If you actually posted all what you wrote here... well maybe I would just read the actual words posted and not put something between the lines or assumes it says something more than it does at face value.
But....you didn't.
HA... so your reading between the lines... assuming things someone didn't post, and just making up things that aren't represented in the post is somehow my fault... LOL... that's rich. Anybody else you'd like to blame for any other mistakes you've made... how about your mother? Did she not change you fast enough? Or maybe someone at work looked at your wrong and that made you stump your toe? Absolute absurdity.
I HEARD IT SAID during a teaching that the common denominator among those that turned charismatic was bitterness. Do you agree? Why or why not...and of course our opinion of what charismatic is will vary...
No, I don't agree. I think anyone who believes the Acts 2:38 message will practically kill themselves holding to it, no matter the cost. Most of the time a change in belief is why people leave.
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You know why? Cause out of the 7 forums I am a member of, this one is notorious for people reading more into a post than what the person says. Many posters in this forum, which you are majorly one of, think because someone sounds a lot like, and sees things a lot like some other folks in your past, that you can take all their vileness, nastiness, issues, bad history, negative experiences, and characteristics.... and apply them to me as well.
You think because there are similarities, you can take your broad brush and paint it all over me, when I didn't say or do what they did. I have absolutely no bitterness... but I'm not going to be all nicety nice, play patty cake with someone who will be as so disrespectful to even read what I actually post... but rather just try to pounce on me with their snarky, poisonous, vitriole.
I've been accused of being too black and white and too plain about some things... but you know what? many of you that have such negative connotations and associations from your past because someone that was conservative Oneness did you wrong... maybe even quite a few of them did you wrong... you believe you can put us all in the same box... when I've never pastored you, never preached to you, and never had a relationship with you. That is the worst of all legalism right there... because someone fits part of the characteristics and has some similarities, their guilty of someone else's crimes.
The very tolerance of which you folks who have been "free'd" from that bondage seem to want from the more conservative is a luxury your not even willing to at first offer. Seems to me that the conservative Oneness churches of which you bemoan and begrudge aren't holding a monopoly on hypocrisy.
WOW! Such vitriol coming from someone who claims to receive it from others. Does that make you feel better?
How did you take my question to you so personally?
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
Some would even argue it's the catalyst for most... I'm not sure if it's the reason... but sure is one of the main things packed away in all their baggage they take with them.
The topic of this thread is bitterness. I would think that you did 'broad brush' by implying that bitterness is one of the main things or reasons packed away in all their baggage they take with them. You posted it. Now you are denying that you broad brushed people that leave? And now you want to project your disrespect onto me?
I'd say you are the one who has the problem man.
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
Unless you've became bitter and left a church, how would you even know what is in the minds of people who leave?
Or is it just a handy excuse a preacher might use to explain why somebody leaves?
What if I reword my question to you to be ...Unless one becomes bitter and left a church, how would one even know what is in the minds of people who leave?
Perhaps when replying to your posts, one should totally disengage themselves from having any direct post referring to you at all? Would that suit you?
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HA... so your reading between the lines... assuming things someone didn't post, and just making up things that aren't represented in the post is somehow my fault... LOL... that's rich. Anybody else you'd like to blame for any other mistakes you've made... how about your mother? Did she not change you fast enough? Or maybe someone at work looked at your wrong and that made you stump your toe? Absolute absurdity.
I think that the absurdity is in your reaction C. Todd Robbins. You are going overboard.
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It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. (Psalms 118:8)
I HEARD IT SAID during a teaching that the common denominator among those that turned charismatic was bitterness. Do you agree? Why or why not...and of course our opinion of what charismatic is will vary...
When I left the Oneness Pentecostals, it was after much soul-searching, prayer, fasting, counsel and reading of the Word to ensure that the difference that I perceived in what I now believe and what I used to believe was really there.
I have some experiences that I could allow myself to be bitter over, but stuff happens and there isn't one Christian denomination or organization that is perfect.
I know what I believe and I know why I left-- even though I miss them.
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Boy...I just went to a Charismatic church because I realized one day that I had heard everything the Baptists had to teach me...and I had Pentecostal relatives
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