Glorying In Sin

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Your question has been answered. Apparently you dont get it?

Please point to which post gave the examples from AFF of this "glorying in sin" and this "slamming of Holiness"

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Please point to which post gave the examples from AFF of this "glorying in sin" and this "slamming of Holiness"

I thought you were still looking for this answer.

All these amens but nobody seems to know or agree on the meaning of holiness

There are actually many examples of it here. I dont have time to go back and look for them. Neither do I really wish to make it personal with the people who have done it.

I was agreeing with JB in principal in a general way. And if something I or someone else in this thread helps open someones eyes to holiness thats good!

[Praxeas]

Nobody has to name names.

[Praxeas]

[Michael The Disciple]

You have not commented on the posts I have already done.

[Praxeas]

Thats because Im only interested in the topic

Glorying in Sin
It seems that among the AFF crowd here (and those with AFF roots who post primarly on FB) that there is almost a glorying in sin. A glorying in NOT being perfect and being at least a little worldly. These people tend to come across as condenscending towards those who seek to be seperated from the world.

I don't get it. I realize I'm on the opposite track as some of these people, because all their childhood (and even into adulthood) they didn't watch tv, didn't listen to secular music, didn't experience the world, and now that their eyes have been opened to "grace" they "are free to do all these things"

Anyway, I'm done with my rant, just sayin, I don't understand why so many seem so eager to immerse themselves in this godless culture.

Please give me some examples on AFF of this...I need context. I have seen lots of hammering on Standards but this is not about standards, so to put this into context for me Im asking ANYONE to quote people glorying in sin, eager to immerse themselves in "this godless culture" and saying it's ok to do all kinds of things now that they have grace.

What thread did I miss? Please point me in that direction

[AreYouReady?]

Prax, there are none that I can see...unless you count going to see a movie to be a 'sin'.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

That is exactly the heresy. If we are in sin no we are not just automatically considered to be righteous because Christ is righteous.

So we do not have Christ's righteousness?

We are only righteous if we are righteous even as he is righteous.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 1 John 3:7

We grow in grace and righteousness, or better put... Christlikeness. I've seen new believers CRUSHED because they have spiritual growing to do in righteousness when absolute perfection is immediately demanded of them.

In truth this is the error that Apostolic New Testament Christians have swallowed en mass and is destroying the harvest at this time.

They heresy is "self-righteousness". Because if it isn't Christ's righteousness that we're walking in... it's self-righteousness.

[Aquila]

Claiming any righteousness outside of Christ is sin.

[Aquila]

We must have absolute perfection to live in God's presence. That means absolute perfection with regards to our past, our present, and our future. Since none of us have that... we must rely on God's imputed righteousness. We stand in the righteousness of God... not a righteousness of ourselves.