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10-06-2012, 09:24 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Who here has stated he should be shunned? Not one here I noticed doesn't think he should be shown merecy in restoration.
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Nobody. She has shown a pattern of this sort of doing that.
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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10-06-2012, 09:25 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I'm just getting frustrated with the intertwining of "forgiveness" with "retaining one's position." One MIGHT retain a position if the congregation is okay with it, and one's authorities are okay with it--but if the congregation and/or the authorities are NOT okay with it, it doesn't make them wrong. It doesn't even mean they aren't forgiving. It means they don't trust the person to do their job OR at the very least, they don't think they can do it effectively. Which has merit!
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Once again, I repeat, he had to step down.
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10-06-2012, 09:26 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
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What does that have to do with the topic of biblical qualifications for a pastor including reputation?  |
actually this particular thread is about restoration
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10-06-2012, 09:27 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
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Once again, I repeat, he had to step down.
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What does that have to do with my post? Why don't you try actually addressing post content? Otherwise, why quote anyone?
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10-06-2012, 09:34 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
You said you were against a person retaining their position that is why I copied it. I am in agreement that a pastor cannot do so after being in an adulterous affair.
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10-06-2012, 09:41 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
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Once again, I repeat, he had to step down.
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Nobody said he didn't. lol
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-06-2012, 09:43 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy
You said you were against a person retaining their position that is why I copied it. I am in agreement that a pastor cannot do so after being in an adulterous affair.
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Then why does it seem like you are attacking other people who state that same thing? 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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10-06-2012, 09:44 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy
actually this particular thread is about restoration
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Right Looney and in that discussion part of the topic was restoration BACK to a position of Pastoring or some other leadership position.
So on that issue the qualifications of a Pastor are to be looked at....wow
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-06-2012, 09:45 PM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy
You said you were against a person retaining their position that is why I copied it. I am in agreement that a pastor cannot do so after being in an adulterous affair.
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ROFL...then do you mind explaining why you have been disagreeing and arguing with us? 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-07-2012, 07:00 AM
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Re: Restoration after a moral failure
Because I believe eventually people can be restored to ministry. Maybe not under the UPC label, but another oneness organization.
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