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Originally Posted by Timmy
A lot of the things you have said imply that, but you won't come right out and say it.
(I am an unbeliever, by the way.) My thoughts: there are some believers who are better than some unbelievers. There are some unbelievers who are better than some believers. There is a spectrum of "goodness" in both camps. I haven't developed a strong opinion on which camp has more goodness in it, but I am more interested in the opinions of believers on this question, anyway. (In this thread, at least.  )
As for me, before I was a Christian, I was just a kid, so not much wallowing in the cesspool of sin.  To compare the pre-backslidden me with the backslidden me, I'd have to say there isn't much difference, goodness-wise. ( Big difference, depression-wise, but that's a different topic.)
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I think you're totally looking at this from the wrong point of view. You want to gauge the amount of "goodness" residing in the Christian vs. Non-believer? How would you quantify that? What criteria would you choose to measure that, and how would you account for the many variables that would have to be included in order to get an accurate idea of faith's impact on someone's stock of "goodness?"
Also, what is the benefit of proving either opinion? What benefit comes from proposing that Christians think they are better than others? What benefit comes from proving that Christians are no better than the non-believer?
futhermore, I'm not implying that I believe anyone is better than anyone else, nor do I think that way. I've stated clearly what I believe. I have a feeling you feel that Christians do think of themselves as better, and you are looking for confirmation of that idea. Hopefully I am wrong about that.