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Old 12-18-2012, 05:38 PM
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So good ole Mike Huckabee basically said that the school shooting happened due to us taking GOD out of schools. Does everyone agree with this?
No I don't agree with that because that's not what he said. That's what the liberal spin machine said he said.

He said in a nut shell that people who ask "where's God in all this" shouldn't be looking for God to have intervene because they generally don't want God in the school anyway.

Which is the same sentiment I made and a valid point.

Here's the real issue: as long as we let immorality run rampant in this country there are going to be heinous crimes against humanity. It is not "God punishing children" it is the natural outcome of a nation which looses it's moral standing. This isn't limited to school prayer, although that has something to do with it, but it's homosexuality, the broken family structure, pornography, abortion, these violent video games, parents no longer parenting their children, the welfare/nanny state expanding, etc.

If immorality is the order of the day, guess what... people will act immoral. If we keep pretending like people have a "right" to practice immorality and do whatever they want and change what is moral and what isn't in society, and we should deal with it and "mind our business", unfortunately our society's children suffer. I wish it were some other way, but our society is spawning these out of control ruthless killers, they're not just randomly popping up for no reason.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:41 PM
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We need to get prayer in our homes before we worry about prayer in schools.

Besides... do you want some liberal Episcopal Christian leading the class to pray? How about a Muslim? A Hindu? Or a New Age teacher? The schools aren't qualified to lead kids in prayer.
I will let anyone pray around me and with my children. As long as they're praying to Jesus Christ. BTW they already are praying to Allah in some California schools...

...if you think there's isn't agenda to do here what you already know they're doing in Europe and the left isn't behind it I just don't know what to tell you.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:45 PM
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It depends.

Based on the Bible, does God hear the prayers of people who don't know Him?

Based on the Bible, is there any value to a general acknowledgment of God by people who are still lost in their sins?
One could argue he does not tend to them the way he tends to the prayers of the righteous no. However Nebuchadnezzar had a very strange relationship with God as King over Babylon and God at one point bless his kingdom when the king gave him glory.

God does bless nations that turn to him alone, I do believe. Even though leadership may be lost, if the president of this nation saved or not said God I am turning this nation to your hands and we will no longer offend you with our sins as a nation, I believe God will accept that repentance.
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I will let anyone pray around me and with my children. As long as they're praying to Jesus Christ. BTW they already are praying to Allah in some California schools...

...if you think there's isn't agenda to do here what you already know they're doing in Europe and the left isn't behind it I just don't know what to tell you.
I want to know why the emboldemed is not being declared UNCONSTITUIONAL by the Supreme Court?????
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Looks like the Christians are going to have to file a lawsuit to have the law applied equally.....
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Looks like the Christians are going to have to file a lawsuit to have the law applied equally.....
You mean all the Christians that are scared of our government? Why haven't we all been jailed for standing up to the government? Why aren't Pastor's all over the country in prison?

Because we don't stand up against immorality, and are powerless. And they don't fear us, like they did Jesus and the Apostle's. We sit in our safe homes and churches and are law abiding citizens.
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You mean all the Christians that are scared of our government? Why haven't we all been jailed for standing up to the government? Why aren't Pastor's all over the country in prison?

Because we don't stand up against immorality, and are powerless. And they don't fear us, like they did Jesus and the Apostle's. We sit in our safe homes and churches and are law abiding citizens.
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I remember as a child going with my Mom to a little Baptist church to sign a petition to keep prayer in schools. Not a lot of people showed up. But those older Baptist ladies, were there serving coffee and cookies.
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When we have such a diverse population being imported into America, unrestrained immigration, the Government has to try to destroy Christianity. They use our very own scriptures against standing up to them such as Romans 13. Many Pastors teach Romans 13 in a twisted way.

Now, if I had children in a public school system, I would not want "school prayer" to be reinstituted because they might make a law stating that the children will have to sit and listen or participate in prayers to Allah, Vishnu, Mithra, Zeus, Shiva or any of the other 3 million idol 'gods' out there that people worship.

I was a little girl when the courts outlawed school prayer. I came to school one day and we all stood for the pledge of allegiance and prayer. She told us to sit down after the pledge.
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When we have such a diverse population being imported into America, unrestrained immigration, the Government has to try to destroy Christianity. They use our very own scriptures against standing up to them such as Romans 13. Many Pastors teach Romans 13 in a twisted way.

Now, if I had children in a public school system, I would not want "school prayer" to be reinstituted because they might make a law stating that the children will have to sit and listen or participate in prayers to Allah, Vishnu, Mithra, Zeus, Shiva or any of the other 3 million idol 'gods' out there that people worship.

I was a little girl when the courts outlawed school prayer. I came to school one day and we all stood for the pledge of allegiance and prayer. She told us to sit down after the pledge.
Yes, I remember.
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