Well, you can say it until the cows come home, but it will not make it true!
The biblical facts are that until one is water & Spirit baptized in Jesus' name (in no hyper-strict order) they are not in covenant relationship w/ God....Despite how many times you stomp you foot & scream otherwise .
HA! That's like saying Jesus could have risen before he died!! And you really couldn't refute my last points.
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