Why Imply No Tongues = No Salvation?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Many here think it should be like this:



What can wash away my sin?
Nothing but my uncut hair,;
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but my long skirts.



Oh! precious is the flow
That makes me white as snow;
No other fount I know,
Nothing but the speaking in tongues.

For my pardon, this I see,
Nothing but my dress code;
For my cleansing this my plea,
Nothing but my little 6 year old boy,
with a 2 piece suit and tie.

Originally Posted by seekerman

Yes, that would be the oneness pentecostal version. An additional verse would read....

What can wash away my sins
what can make be whole again
what can redeem this sinful creature
nothing but the baptismal words of the preacher

Originally Posted by rdp

Actually, it would be the Bible version....Oughta' try it sometime instead of fighting it like a tiger !

It's quite liberating from the false doctrines propagated by Trinitarians !

The bible version? Really?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Many here think it should be like this:



What can wash away my sin?
Nothing but my uncut hair,;
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but my long skirts.



Oh! precious is the flow
That makes me white as snow;
No other fount I know,
Nothing but the speaking in tongues.

For my pardon, this I see,
Nothing but my dress code;
For my cleansing this my plea,
Nothing but my little 6 year old boy,
with a 2 piece suit and tie.

Silly Apostles Paul & Peter...Not to mention poor ol' legalist Moses...They surely should have known we can run around stark naked w/ hair like a woman's & all decked out in jewelry from head to toe!


After all, to forbid any of this based upon very clear Scripture would be "legalism" !

What were we ever thinking obeying clear biblical admonitions....We surely should have ran it the "Apostolic" Friends Forum first !

[rdp]

Originally Posted by houston

The bible version? Really?

Umm, yes. you know, that Book you read out of today??

While none of the Scriptural issues on the list actually "wash away our sins"....They are nonetheless very clear biblical admonitions.

But, why would I ever appeal to the actual Bible on AFF????

Been fun boys, but on the road for the next 3 weeks....Too busy to keep playing reindeer games !

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Jesus said that the believers would handle snakes.
Where is the insistence that we ALL handle snakes as part of passing through the birth canal of salvation?

Where is the insistence that we ALL drive out demons?

Where is the insistence that we ALL heal? Using Oneness logic, are we not "safe" until we lay our hands on someone who is sick and see that the Lord heals them?

But we insist that a person is not "safe" until the Lord confirms their new birth by speaking in tongues?

Doesn't anyone see the inconsistency in this?


In the New Testament, there is one person who plainly asks the question, "What must I do to be saved?"

Was the answer given incomplete?

According to many, yes Paul's recorded answer was incomplete and even inconsistent with the truth of God's Word. However, Paul's answer to the Phillipian jailer seems complete and consistent with all of the very plain scriptures related to salvation.

I thought you said this was settled so why are you still arguing bro. Just saying.

As for the whole "oneness logic" instance, you seem to understand "oneness logic" far differently then most educated oneness folks.

I won't go into detail because there's no point because the "matter is settled". I WILL say I've cast out devils, laid hands on the sick, and handled serpents. If you're not actively living God's word I'd question your faith. As many demons are running through our churches, if you haven't cast one out yet you're either scared or powerless.

[Dordrecht]

Silly Apostles Paul & Peter...Not to mention poor ol' legalist Moses...They surely should have known we can run around stark naked w/ hair like a woman's & all decked out in jewelry from head to toe!

Ok...now you are over reacting!

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Ok...now you are over reacting!

Why? It's the identical logic libs use to denigrate Scriptural injunctions???

[tv1a]

If tongues are the initial evidence, then you are looking for people to speak intongues.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

My friend again this is NO command for tongues because tongues is NOT the experience the Holy Ghost baptism is the experience and tongues is the initial evidence. It is understood.

[tv1a]

Francis Macnutt wrote in his book The Nearly Perfect Crime, How the Church Almost Killed the Healing Ministry, ,how people in the New Testament church were a person expected to heal the sick and cast out devils when they were baptized in the Spirit. Within 300 years healing was only done by select clergy and in some countries kings.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Jesus said that the believers would handle snakes.
Where is the insistence that we ALL handle snakes as part of passing through the birth canal of salvation?

Where is the insistence that we ALL drive out demons?

Where is the insistence that we ALL heal? Using Oneness logic, are we not "safe" until we lay our hands on someone who is sick and see that the Lord heals them?

But we insist that a person is not "safe" until the Lord confirms their new birth by speaking in tongues?

Doesn't anyone see the inconsistency in this?


In the New Testament, there is one person who plainly asks the question, "What must I do to be saved?"

Was the answer given incomplete?

According to many, yes Paul's recorded answer was incomplete and even inconsistent with the truth of God's Word. However, Paul's answer to the Phillipian jailer seems complete and consistent with all of the very plain scriptures related to salvation.

[Steve Epley]

Some folks are really Baptists.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Some folks are really Baptists.

And not too good at even that...........