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02-01-2013, 06:23 PM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Jesus Emmanuel Christ?
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02-01-2013, 08:19 PM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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So why the Aramaic over the Jesus that we use in English? Just personal preference?
Also, names don't translate, so it has to be pronounced the same.
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Because they feel like it. But some believe you are lost if you don't use His Aramaic name in prayer and baptism
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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02-01-2013, 11:33 PM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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Because they feel like it. But some believe you are lost if you don't use His Aramaic name in prayer and baptism
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Oh wow! People sure like their rules. Don't they??
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02-02-2013, 12:48 AM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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Oh wow! People sure like their rules. Don't they??
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Hyper "Apostolica"....
We stressed such a dependence on "the name" these guys took it to the extreme..
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-02-2013, 06:20 AM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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Oh wow! People sure like their rules. Don't they??
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No one on this Forum believes that. However most here do believe you can enter the kingdom of Heaven without overcoming sin! Wow!
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02-02-2013, 06:24 AM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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Where does the idea they have to be pronounced the same come from? The concept is called "transliteration". The reason its not perfect is different languages many times dont contain the same sounds. So the intention is perfectly logical and innocent. Its just it cannot happen.
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I'm not sure where the idea came from, but in my study of languages one thing that was stressed is that names do not translate. Now, it may be that people in another land don't have the ability to speak certain sounds and a name may be pronounced slightly different due to accent/dialect, but every effort is made to preserve the pronunciation of names.
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02-02-2013, 06:43 AM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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Originally Posted by LifeUncommon
I'm not sure where the idea came from, but in my study of languages one thing that was stressed is that names do not translate. Now, it may be that people in another land don't have the ability to speak certain sounds and a name may be pronounced slightly different due to accent/dialect, but every effort is made to preserve the pronunciation of names.
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Yes if a language has the Hebrew sounds it is preferable to use them. English does. Thats why I use "Yeshua".
Are you saying he was called Jesus while he was here?
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02-02-2013, 02:29 PM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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Originally Posted by LifeUncommon
I'm not sure where the idea came from, but in my study of languages one thing that was stressed is that names do not translate. Now, it may be that people in another land don't have the ability to speak certain sounds and a name may be pronounced slightly different due to accent/dialect, but every effort is made to preserve the pronunciation of names.
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Of course names translate. Where did you read that?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-03-2013, 02:34 PM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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Yes if a language has the Hebrew sounds it is preferable to use them. English does. Thats why I use "Yeshua".
Are you saying he was called Jesus while he was here?
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I'm saying he was called something that sounded similarly to Jesus, yes.
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02-03-2013, 02:36 PM
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Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
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Of course names translate. Where did you read that?
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Proper names do NOT translate. You can read that in a blue million places. John is John wether in the US, Italy, Ukraine, etc.
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