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Originally Posted by bishoph
Amazing......simply amazing......I have found out a lot of things on AFF.....now another supposed truth of God's Word has been debunked.....
(2Co 5:17) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
SMH.....wow.... I am devastated.....just when I thought I could be delivered from sin and my past.......I find out that I am doomed to stay the way I was born until I leave this world.
Rubbish......y'all keep believing in a weak God/gospel, I'll keep believing in a God that doesn't just teach me to cope, but transforms my life each and every day.....until the day when I shall be like him for I shall see him as he is.
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So you believe that God delivers us from our carnality? Why then did Paul feel the need to place such emphasis on walking after the Spirit and not after the flesh when writing to people who were
already Christians?
God doesn't deliver us from our human struggle. He offers redemption for our human condition. We aren't delivered from flesh until we leave this life.
Why does God need to "transform [your] life each and every day" if you've already been delivered from everything? There's no need for any continuing work; you've been delivered from every temptation, right? You don't struggle with anything? No anger, no malice, no gossip, no strife, no jealousy, no pride,
nothing?
Being delivered from the desires and wants and needs and temptations of the flesh is NOT the same thing as being delivered from sin.
I Corinthians 10:13 says that God will make a way to escape (temptation); it does NOT say that we will be free from temptation.
I Corinthians 10:13 "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
Was Paul preaching a weak Gospel there? Preaching that the saints would have temptations (from which they would need to escape), but that God would make sure that they weren't tempted "above that [they] are able."
P.S. I DO believe that God can deliver us from
addiction. My Dad was delivered from addiction to alcohol. However, he was still sometimes tempted by alcohol, which is why we avoided restaurants with bars for most of my childhood years. Addiction is a condition, though; not a simple temptation.