My pastor's wife had broidered hair?

[Wang Mo Shi]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Simple...

1Co 11:14 Does not even nature itself teach you that if man has komao, it is a shame to him?
1Co 11:15 But if a woman should have komao, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her in place of a veil.

Cover, Covering:

lit. denotes "something thrown around" (peri, "around," ballo, "to throw"); hence, "a veil, covering," 1Cr 11:15 (marg.), or "a mantle around the body, a vesture," Hbr 1:12.
See CLOTHING, Note (1), VESTURE.

So if we Broider this: "hair is given to her in place of a veil", ( "a mantle around the body, a vesture" ) will it still cover the woman like a mantle( "something thrown around" ) ?

[Wang Mo Shi]

Originally Posted by Wang Mo Shi

Cover, Covering:

lit. denotes "something thrown around" (peri, "around," ballo, "to throw"); hence, "a veil, covering," 1Cr 11:15 (marg.), or "a mantle around the body, a vesture," Hbr 1:12.
See CLOTHING, Note (1), VESTURE.

So if we Broider this: "hair is given to her in place of a veil", ( "a mantle around the body, a vesture" ) will it still cover the woman like a mantle( "something thrown around" ) ?

The greek word peribolaion denotes:

1) a covering thrown around, a wrapper

a) a mantle

b) a veil

So a mantle or vesture is something that covers the wearer like a wrapper. If the hair is broidered, the hair that is given in place of a veil would not be covering the woman like a mantle that would be thrown around the body.

Instead the hair would be twisted on top of the womens head. Would the woman still be covered by her hair, would she be wearing her hair like a mantle or wrapper?

I have to conclude that the woman would not be covered.

[Praxeas]

Two DIFFERENT Greek words and the word for Veil is not used in that chapter

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Wang Mo Shi

Cover, Covering:

lit. denotes "something thrown around" (peri, "around," ballo, "to throw"); hence, "a veil, covering," 1Cr 11:15 (marg.), or "a mantle around the body, a vesture," Hbr 1:12.
See CLOTHING, Note (1), VESTURE.

So if we Broider this: "hair is given to her in place of a veil", ( "a mantle around the body, a vesture" ) will it still cover the woman like a mantle( "something thrown around" ) ?

Her hair is NOT given to her in place of a veil. It doesn't say that

[Wang Mo Shi]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Simple...

1Co 11:14 Does not even nature itself teach you that if man has komao, it is a shame to him?
1Co 11:15 But if a woman should have komao, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her in place of a veil.

HERE is your own quote that: " her hair is given to her in place of a veil"

Did you forget it?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Wang Mo Shi

HERE is your own quote that: " her hair is given to her in place of a veil"

Did you forget it?

That is from the ESV. Not a good translation.

I stand by my words. The word for Veil does not appear there.

here is the word for Veil

kálumma; gen. kalúmmatos, neut. noun from kalúptō (G2572), to cover. A covering, veil (2Co_3:13 [cf. Exo_34:33 ff.]). Figuratively an impediment (2Co_3:14-16). To be distinguished from peribólaion (G4018) which in 1Co_11:15 is translated "covering" but actually means that which is placed around.

Zodhaites word study

[Praxeas]

1Co 11:14 Does not nature5 itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace for him,
1Co 11:15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering.6

6 sn No word for veil or head covering occurs in 1Co_11:3-14 (see the note on authority in 1Co_11:10). That the hair is regarded by Paul as a covering in 1Co_11:15 is not necessarily an argument that the hair is the same as the head covering that he is describing in the earlier verses (esp. 1Co_11:10). Throughout this unit of material, Paul points out the similarities of long hair with a head covering. But his doing so seems to suggest that the two are not to be identified with each other. Precisely because they are similar they do not appear to be identical (cf. 1Co_11:5; 1Co_11:6; 1Co_11:7; 1Co_11:10; 1Co_11:13). If head covering = long hair, then what does 1Co_11:6 mean ("For if a woman will not cover her head, she should cut off her hair")? This suggests that the covering is not the same as the hair itself.

[Cindy]

Good grief, how many ways can people say the same thing?

[Wang Mo Shi]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

from peribólaion (G4018) which in 1Co_11:15 is translated "covering" but actually means that which is placed around.[/B]

Zodhaites word study

1 Corinthians 11:15

New International Version (NIV)

15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.

Yes, and her long hair is "placed around her" for a covering(G4018 peribolaion).

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Wang Mo Shi

Telling women that they should shorn or shave their heads in 1Cor11, is Paul talking about prefered hairstyles to the current uncovered head hairstyle.

Paul never said wear your hair down that I find.

Also, broidered hair as Praxes correctly stated was twining jewelry or something in the hair.