SPS & homosexual pole dancing

[Praxeas]

Are you guys upset because they had the nerve to suggest gays can worship God, pole dancing can be considered worship or that gays can pole dance to God as worship?

I'm not too surprised on all accounts since there is a liberal flavor running through "Pentecost" now a days and for years LOTS of things have passed as "worship" like running in circles, rolling on the ground, hair swinging and even dancing....

[Pressing-On]

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[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Are you guys upset because they had the nerve to suggest gays can worship God, pole dancing can be considered worship or that gays can pole dance to God as worship?

I think it's VERY offensive to suggest that something of such a [immorally] sexual nature could be considered "worship" in any capacity.

It's also very offensive to suggest that people who openly partake in something God considers abominable could use their abominable acts as a form of worship. I consider pole dancing to be dancing for the purpose of arousing others sexually. Bad enough to think that pole dancing for heterosexual arousal could be worship. Worse still to think that a perversion of sexuality could be considered worship.

As for whether "gays can worship God"; that's also debatable, IMO. It's not real worship if a person is blatantly and rebelliously participating in sin. You can go through the motions and give it a try, I suppose, but worship is much deeper than words we speak and bodily movement.

IMO, it is the worst kind of offensive to take something that you know God hates and try to twist it into something that He will find pleasing. That's as self-centered as Cain offering God what he wanted to give instead of giving what he knew God expected to receive.

[Praxeas]

Im not that surprised at this progression in Pentecostalism considering the liberalness and what passes as worship...Flag waving anyone?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Im not that surprised at this progression in Pentecostalism considering the liberalness and what passes as worship...Flag waving anyone?

I can't stand flag waving it drives me and my wife crazy.

[MissBrattified]

I'm not a huge fan of the flag waving, sign songs, etc.. However, there is absolutely no comparison between something like that (which is relatively wholesome or benign) and using something truly sinful and calling it "worship." (aka, pole dance worship)

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Are you guys upset because they had the nerve to suggest gays can worship God, pole dancing can be considered worship or that gays can pole dance to God as worship?

I'm not too surprised on all accounts since there is a liberal flavor running through "Pentecost" now a days and for years LOTS of things have passed as "worship" like running in circles, rolling on the ground, hair swinging and even dancing....

I feel that I worship God in a better, far more constructive way when I am checking on my friends, caring for the sick and just chatting about sports than I do if I were to do any of the nutty things you listed above. God loves sports... if running in circles in a church is worship than running around a baseball diamond is too.

[Aquila]

lol

I guess it's not entirely clear in some posts.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Are you guys upset because they had the nerve to suggest gays can worship God,

Any fallen human being who has been born again can worship God. He is patient, kind, and merciful to His children as they learn how to walk in sanctification.

pole dancing can be considered worship

This does offend me. I think pole dancing is inherently sinful and carnal. Perhaps if a wife danced for her husband in private it could be quite intimate. But I still don't think it would qualify as worship.

or that gays can pole dance to God as worship?

A little much for me to handle. A born again believer who is struggling in their sexuality should worship God biblically as they seek sanctification. Pole dancing is "of the world" in my opinion.

I'm not too surprised on all accounts since there is a liberal flavor running through "Pentecost" now a days and for years LOTS of things have passed as "worship" like running in circles, rolling on the ground, hair swinging and even dancing....

Gasp! lol

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think it's VERY offensive to suggest that something of such a [immorally] sexual nature could be considered "worship" in any capacity.

It's also very offensive to suggest that people who openly partake in something God considers abominable could use their abominable acts as a form of worship. I consider pole dancing to be dancing for the purpose of arousing others sexually. Bad enough to think that pole dancing for heterosexual arousal could be worship. Worse still to think that a perversion of sexuality could be considered worship.

As for whether "gays can worship God"; that's also debatable, IMO. It's not real worship if a person is blatantly and rebelliously participating in sin. You can go through the motions and give it a try, I suppose, but worship is much deeper than words we speak and bodily movement.

IMO, it is the worst kind of offensive to take something that you know God hates and try to twist it into something that He will find pleasing. That's as self-centered as Cain offering God what he wanted to give instead of giving what he knew God expected to receive.

Reprobates have no sense of the holy.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I'm not a huge fan of the flag waving, sign songs, etc.. However, there is absolutely no comparison between something like that (which is relatively wholesome or benign) and using something truly sinful and calling it "worship." (aka, pole dance worship)

...unless the pole is set up within the four walls of your home. Of course we'd be talking "heterosexual" pole dancing in that case, and it still is a bit of a stretch to consider it "worship". . . . But wrong?