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Old 06-12-2013, 07:47 AM
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The age of accountability in the Old Testament was 20. This is stated numerous times in the book of Numbers. They were not to be counted till they were 20 years old.
Then shouldn't that read "countability"?
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2 Sam 12:22-23 (NIV)

22 He answered, "While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept. I thought, 'Who knows? The Lord may be gracious to me and let the child live.'

23 But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me."
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There are more babies (born and unborn) going to be with the LORD each year than the totality of all living Oneness Pentecostals on Earth today.
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There are more babies (born and unborn) going to be with the LORD each year than the totality of all living Oneness Pentecostals on Earth today.
Yep. From a discussion of a kid's visit to heaven (in the book "Heaven is for Real"):

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Here's something interesting, though not sure I'd call it fishy: he saw his sister that died in the womb. It's interesting because it implies that aborted and miscarried fetuses and embryos will all make it to heaven. And that implies that the vast majority of heaven's residents will be people who never lived and breathed on planet Earth. And I mean vast! There are more souls, by some estimates, in that category than people who have been born, first of all. Secondly, the way is narrow and few will find it, so the count of formerly walking/breathing folks will be that much smaller.
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As a corollary, I have heard of the possibility that we may reincarnate, although of course Scripture tells us not to teach this...possibly akin to like, speaking with the dead? (another scenario that Scripture acknowledges as possible, while forbidding it for a Christian, iow).
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If Christ was asking the Father to forgive the very people that crucified and beat him as he hung on the cross, do you think he's going to torment children and infants to infinity? REALLY?
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If Christ was asking the Father to forgive the very people that crucified and beat him as he hung on the cross, do you think he's going to torment children and infants to infinity? REALLY?
So now we are allowed to use our own moral intuition and life's experiences for deciding theological issues? When did that happen? To torture regular "accountable" 13 year-olds with hot heat for billions of years, then resetting the clock for more billions of years is essentially no different. Funny how babies are supposed to be excluded. I wonder if that's because they are so cute and so lovable, (unlike the rest of humanity?)
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So now we are allowed to use our own moral intuition and life's experiences for deciding theological issues? When did that happen?
At "Seek your own salvation..?"
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What if this is a test?

What if this is a test to see if we will blindly follow what they say, or if we will search out what we know isn't right and scripturally stand up against them?

This is the only logic I can see, for the bodies that make up this Church have more love than we've ever witnessed (and we've witnessed a lot).
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