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Old 08-16-2013, 07:01 AM
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Gary Johnson!
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:06 AM
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Gary Johnson!
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:33 AM
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Who???

Never mind. He might as well have said, "Englebert Humperdink!"
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Here's a question. If they are really "true conservative/libertarians"... why don't they become Libertarian??? Political expediency. And in the end they compromise their libertarian positions to keep their positions.
It is going to be hard, for now, to have a third party rise above the two-party system.

The GOP wants Party over principle. The RNC is not going to allow a true Conservative on the top ticket and their new rules will destroy the down ballot.

If they throw Rand and Cruz under the bus, our country is going to continue a downward spiral.

I agree with something I heard Rush say, in an interview with Greta VanSusteren - "The Republicans are complicit with what is going wrong."

Boehner could have ended Obamacare when Roberts ruled it as a tax. That made it a Revenue bill which must originate in the House. It came out of the Senate. Boehner could have forced them to rewrite the bill, but he didn't. The Rhino Republicans are complicit with all the ills they gripe about.

They hate the Gang of Three - Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Mike Lee for challenging their status quo.
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Here's a question. If they are really "true conservative/libertarians"... why don't they become Libertarian??? Political expediency. And in the end they compromise their libertarian positions to keep their positions.
Aquila, Thought you might be interested in reading this article.


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Why Libertarianism Will Crush Conservatism

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus recently wrote a piece on PolicyMic attempting to draw millennials to the GOP. Priebus and the rest of the Republican leadership know the future of their party is in serious jeopardy; what they don't realize is that only libertarians can save them.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/60...h-conservatism
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Here we go with another Romney debacle. I agree with most of the comments which are better than the article.

"...save us from the moderates (Christie is left of moderate. Why hasn't he changed parties yet?). There is NO daylight between Christie's policies and Hillary Clinton's. Did we not learn ANYTHING last cycle? If this party is to survive, it is going to have to provide the American people with a clear conservative alternative. White conservatives will stay home again - and the Democrats will hold on to the presidency. Rich Lowry, please stay out of the primaries this time around. I AM BEGGING YOU…."

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The New Jersey governor cements the support of Republican power brokers.


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The latest with Christie. An individual can't have a "choice" on counseling if they want it? Why is that anyone's business, especially the government's business?

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Chris Christie Makes It A Crime To Help Homosexual Teens Go Straight

Gov. Chris Christie plans to sign a bill Monday barring licensed therapists from trying to turn gay teenagers straight, making New Jersey the second state to ban so-called conversion therapy, along with California.

The bill passed both houses of the New Jersey Legislature with bipartisan support in June. Assemblyman Tim Eustace, who sponsored the bill and is openly gay, described the therapy as “an insidious form of child abuse.”

http://patdollard.com/2013/08/chris-...s-go-straight/
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Just read allegations this morning that Sen Paul supporters are campaigning on Cruz's eligibility and trying to make it an issue with the voters.

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Allies of Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., in Iowa have begun raising questions about whether Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, qualifies for president under the Constitution, according to an in-state political operative who supports the Texas lawmaker.

“They’re scared and they now keep bringing up the eligibility issue,” Jamie Johnson told the Washington Examiner. Johnson was coalitions director for Rick Santorum’s campaign during the 2012 Iowa caucuses, but he hopes Cruz wins the Republican nomination in 2016. “They are hitting the eligibility issue hard,” Johnson said. “They’re using third-party sources, though; they don’t want it tracked back to Campaign for Liberty [an organization that grew out of Ron Paul's 2008 presidential bid].”
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Certainly, there’s no open war between Cruz and Paul. The Republican Party of Iowa, which is largely dominated by Paul supporters, invited the Texas senator to headline the Ronald Reagan Commemorative Dinner in October.

That could change, though. “I could see a scenario where Ted Cruz is Public Enemy Number One should they both decide to run,” Robinson said.
Awesome. [/sarcasm]

There is only one group of fans who annoy me more than Beliebers....they are the Ron Paul fanatics. Seriously. I liked a lot of what Ron Paul had to say, but his fanatics were so annoying that I couldn't support him.

I hope Campaign for Liberty isn't doing this. I hope Cruz doesn't become "public enemy number one" should both he and Paul run for President. I love them both and would be really disappointed to see the primary turn into a political springer show.

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Just read allegations this morning that Sen Paul supporters are campaigning on Cruz's eligibility and trying to make it an issue with the voters.





Awesome. [/sarcasm]

There is only one group of fans who annoy me more than Beliebers....they are the Ron Paul fanatics. Seriously. I liked a lot of what Ron Paul had to say, but his fanatics were so annoying that I couldn't support him.

I hope Campaign for Liberty isn't doing this. I hope Cruz doesn't become "public enemy number one" should both he and Paul run for President. I love them both and would be really disappointed to see the primary turn into a political springer show.

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I agree. I do agree with a lot of what Ron Paul says, but some of Ron Paul's people are serious fanatics and almost appear to be mental. They were dogging McCain's eligibility. Ridiculous as McCain's parents were US citizens stationed in the Panama Canal Zone.
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Here we go with another Romney debacle. I agree with most of the comments which are better than the article.

"...save us from the moderates (Christie is left of moderate. Why hasn't he changed parties yet?). There is NO daylight between Christie's policies and Hillary Clinton's. Did we not learn ANYTHING last cycle? If this party is to survive, it is going to have to provide the American people with a clear conservative alternative. White conservatives will stay home again - and the Democrats will hold on to the presidency. Rich Lowry, please stay out of the primaries this time around. I AM BEGGING YOU…."



The latest with Christie. An individual can't have a "choice" on counseling if they want it? Why is that anyone's business, especially the government's business?
Do these conversion therapy sessions ever work? I mean really work, as in actually changing them from gay to straight?
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Do these conversion therapy sessions ever work? I mean really work, as in actually changing them from gay to straight?
I don't really know. I am remembering a friend who worked with a person who was gay. The conversation was about change and deliverance. She told me the gay person didn't know he could be delivered. He told her that his therapist stated that when you are "born" that way, it is what it is.

If the Bible calls homosexuality an abomination and says that the only sin you cannot be forgiven of is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, I would have to say that a person could change.

It's also not the government's responsibility nor it's right to tell anyone whether or not they can or cannot have counseling. That is more troubling to me than addressing the issue of whether a gay person can change or not.
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