Real tongues or fake tongues?

[renee819]

Praxeas, I do believe that I am understanding you, but evidently you are not understanding me.

Originally Posted by renee819

Praxeas, have you never been in a service like that?

If a person feels led to speak out in tongues, they should do so. You've got to speak before you know if there is an interpreter there or not.. There is a holy hush that comes over the audience. everybody bows their head and prays that someone will bring forth the interpretation. And sometimes there is no interpretation. And that is the end of it.

I believe that is also in the right order according to Paul. They have to speak first.
But after one to three have spoken, wait for the Interpretation.
After that, if there is no interpretation, then there isn't to be any more speaking in tongues, in that service.

Praxeas wrote

You aren't understanding what the point is.

If they aren't supposed to speak in tongues unless there is an interpreter...then HOW will they know there IS an Interpreter until they DO speak in tongues to find out someone has that gift?

So the fact is, you just contradicted what you said earlier

Renee wrote

I believe that both were out of order, unless there was an interpretation to what the man was speaking

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Praveas wrote

The fact is it only becomes "out of order" after 2 or 3 tongues and nobody has interpreted.

Just because no interpretation comes after the both of them does not mean it was out of order. Get it?

This is where the problem is. There is no contradiction. The two that were out of order.

The man was preaching, he didn't speak in tongues as a message from God. If so then after he spoke in tongues then he should have waited for an interpretation. But it was for show.

The lady was praying for a persons healing. Paul says, if you pray or bless someone in tongues, how can a person in the room bless it, not knowing what you prayed.
Was she bringing a message in tongues to be interpreted? No.
I believe that Paul is teaching them, the only time that speaking in Unknown Tongues in church is appropriate, is when God is sending a message to be interpreted.

1 Corinthians 14:16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
:17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

Now back to the chicken and the egg, which comes first.

If you know the people in the church, you will know if there is anyone there that has the gift of interpretation. It is a gift just as the gift of divers/unknown tongues is a gift. But if God inspires you to speak out, then usually there is someone there that can interpret. like the example above that I felt that I had the interpretation but I didn't speak out. The lady that brought the interpretation had never done that before.

Praveas wrote

The fact is it only becomes "out of order" after 2 or 3 tongues and nobody has interpreted.

Just because no interpretation comes after the both of them does not mean it was out of order. Get it?

Right! If they had been bringing forth a message to be interpreted. Where they? NO! Did they wait for an interpretation? NO!
A person that has the gift of tongues, can speak in tongues anytime that they want to, or they can refrain. You could tell, as I've seen many do, they were speaking for show. Not bringing forth any kind of message to be interpreted.

I've done it myself, in my ignorance, before that I did some deeper studies.

I was in a large church, and gave my testimony of being healed of Myasthenia Gravis. After which, I was asked to pray for a blind boy. I said a few words in English and then in my ignorance, the most of my prayer was in tongues.
I wish I could do that all over again. I would not today pray in tongues.