Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I have been gone from the UPC since shortly after the fallout from this sermon so I have no desire to tear down the organization. I do find it sad that so many of us were forced out by he hardliners when we would have been happy to stay but for the attitude that we must all believe the same on every passage and every issue.

How would you ever hope to maintain any type of unity having two messages preached on Sunday - one for the morning and one for the evening? Or one for Sunday and one for Wednesday? The church body would wonder at what point they would be saved.

Obviously, you wanted your point preached and believed. Not much different than the other side's view?

IMO, it would be better to preach the same thing - the "common faith" as Paul terms it. In the Greek, "common" is define as "shared".

Kind of a no-brainer that parting company was the only solution.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

How would you ever hope to maintain any type of unity having two messages preached on Sunday - one for the morning and one for the evening? Or one for Sunday and one for Wednesday? The church body would wonder at what point they would be saved.

Obviously, you wanted your point preached and believed. Not much different than the other side's view?

IMO, it would be better to preach the same thing - the "common faith" as Paul terms it. In the Greek, "common" is define as "shared".

Kind of a no-brainer that parting company was the only solution.

Have you listened to the sermon PO.

[Baron1710]

I am doubting that you have based n the ignorance of your post.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Have you listened to the sermon PO.

No, I didn't listen to it. I was assuming it was the same issue - one-step vs. three-step.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I am doubting that you have based n the ignorance of your post.

Still like your gay hairdo.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

No, I didn't listen to it. I was assuming it was the same issue - one-step vs. three-step.

You do yourself a disservice by assuming and ranting rather than listening.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

You do yourself a disservice by assuming and ranting rather than listening.

Well, was it about that issue? Because I have no idea what else could be so important to disagree about. And I don't have time to listen to it.

Give me more of a recap. What irritated you enough to leave?

[Baron1710]

You don't have time to listen but plenty of time to comment...

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by charity

Reposted from Dan Alicea's facebook wall:

Loren Yadon's Epic "The Tragedy of War" : On January 25, 1993, at the Landmark Conference, in Stockton, CA, Rev. Loren Yadon, nephew of an original General Board member of the United Pentecostal Church and teacher at Christian Life College, would speak truth about the intents of the his elders. He spoke of the "narrow mindedness" that had entered his ministerial organization, after the Westberg Resolution was passed at the 1992 General Conference, and instituted a divisive affirmation statement. A movement that has sought to silence a divergent view of salvation within its leaders.

It would cost him his job. His career. His error ... SPEAKING TRUTH.

https://soundcloud.com/lukeodle/tragedy-of-war

Interesting stuff. I listened from 23:00 to 48:00.

So what became of this Yadon fellow?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

You don't have time to listen but plenty of time to comment...

You can't tell me if the main issue was regarding the one-step vs. three-step? That's all I want to know. If it is not, then tell me it isn't?