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[berkeley]

Originally Posted by n david

You don't control your tongue. When you speak in tongues, you're not in control of your tongue. Saying you can "think in tongues" is absurd, to be blunt. There is no example in the Bible of someone "thinking in tongues." You can pray in your mind, but you cannot "think in tongues." People who claim to "think in tongues" should check themselves into a mental institution. Renee apparently didn't understand what I posted, because she completely missed the point by going on and on about something else entirely.

how is it possible to abuse tongues if you do not control it?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by seekerman

That's as crazy as folks claiming that the deaf and dumb can speak in tongues. Absurd?

they can

[n david]

Originally Posted by berkeley

how is it possible to abuse tongues if you so not control it?

Not following the question, sorry.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Deaf and mute people dont think in tongues upon receiving the Holy Ghost. They SPEAK in tongues just like everyone else.

I have witnessed it at WDYC 1997. The guy was a mute.

[renee819]

David wrote,

I'm sorry that you felt I was singling you out; however, that is not what happened. Show me where I did what you claim I did. Show me where I said there's something wrong with YOU mentally, or where I posted that YOU belong in a mental hospital.

Please, show me where I singled YOU out. Never happened.

WHAT???? Now you claim that you weren't talking to me??? Please tell me. Is there anyone else on here that said that they thought in tongues?

WHO WAS THIS ADDRESSED TO? Who is the YOU?

David wrote

Saying you can "think in tongues" is absurd, to be blunt. There is no example in the Bible of someone "thinking in tongues." You can pray in your mind, but you cannot "think in tongues." People who claim to "think in tongues" should check themselves into a mental institution.
The original question was "Do you think in tongues." This answer was a response to Berkeley's request that I elaborate on my answer, not a shot at you.

Then when kclee4jc told you, “that was uncalled for.” You partly apologized, then turned around and said it again

David wrote

I apologize for the offense. A person claiming to "think in tongues" is not in control of their mind, if true. The Holy Ghost is by the Spirit's utterance and not by our will or power. If a person is claiming to "think in tongues" they've (in essence) lost their mind and should check themselves into a mental institution

David wrote,

My second post did address your post about being in control. I wrote that it was a reason I don't believe people can think in tongues.

The post where I mention that people who think in tongues need to check themselves into a mental institution was a direct response to a request by Berkeley to elaborate on what I meant. I did not quote you, nor was it directed at you. The only reference to you was that you missed the point of my post by going off about Charismatics and wild services

“Think in tongues” was a quote from me. I don't see where anyone else said that. What I see, is you backing down, so as not to ask for forgiveness for your, rude, hateful attitude.
Of course it was a request from Berkeley. He, like I probably sensed that you didn't know what you were talking about, when you said that 'people don't have control' meaning, that people don't have control of the spirit.

We all know, at least all those that speak in tongues, that you don't have control of your tongue. If you did, it would not be Other Tongues, nor Unknown Tongues. But to teach that you don't have control of whether you speak out or speak to yourself (thinking in tongues) is exactly what Paul was teaching against, and has caused much confusion in the churches today, when everyone speaks in tongues at the same time. Or thru manipulation ends up in a shouting match causing a wild service, that many think is great.

However, if no one was healed. No one repented or received the Holy Ghost, then it was just an emotional high. And the reason???? The people have not been taught to control themselves, to speak one at a time, to interpret what is spoken. And if there is not an 'interpreter' to “speak to yourself (think in tongues) and to God.”

You sir, changed the subject, when you said that people didn't have control.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by berkeley

I have witnessed it at WDYC 1997. The guy was a mute.

thank you houston

[n david]

Originally Posted by renee819

WHAT???? Now you claim that you weren't talking to me??? Please tell me. Is there anyone else on here that said that they thought in tongues?

Renee, you can believe what you want, and suggest I'm lying all you want. I know what I was posting and what I was referring to. The title of the thread is "Do you think in tongues." I was NOT referring to you. Again, if you want to be wrongly offended and say I was talking about you, bless your heart, go right ahead.

Originally Posted by renee819

“Think in tongues” was a quote from me. I don't see where anyone else said that.

Seriously? Why don't you look at the very first post and title of this thread. "Do you 'think in tongues'." It was Berkeley who first used the term, not you!

Originally Posted by renee819

What I see, is you backing down, so as not to ask for forgiveness for your, rude, hateful attitude.

I'm not backing down from anything, nor do I need to. My previous post showed that I was not referring to you, but was responding to Berkeley.

Originally Posted by renee819

Of course it was a request from Berkeley. He, like I probably sensed that you didn't know what you were talking about, when you said that 'people don't have control' meaning, that people don't have control of the spirit.

I know exactly what I was posting about, and the part in bold is NOT what I meant. I did NOT mean people don't have control of the spirit. That's absurd.

Originally Posted by renee819

We all know, at least all those that speak in tongues, that you don't have control of your tongue. If you did, it would not be Other Tongues, nor Unknown Tongues. But to teach that you don't have control of whether you speak out or speak to yourself (thinking in tongues) is exactly what Paul was teaching against, and has caused much confusion in the churches today, when everyone speaks in tongues at the same time. Or thru manipulation ends up in a shouting match causing a wild service, that many think is great.

However, if no one was healed. No one repented or received the Holy Ghost, then it was just an emotional high. And the reason???? The people have not been taught to control themselves, to speak one at a time, to interpret what is spoken. And if there is not an 'interpreter' to “speak to yourself (think in tongues) and to God.”

There you go again, off about something I wasn't even talking about. BTW, "speaking to yourself" is not "thinking in tongues." Unless you define "speaking" as a non-audible thought process.

Originally Posted by renee819

You sir, changed the subject, when you said that people didn't have control.

No. But go ahead and believe what you want, Renee.

I replied to the subject of the thread, not you. I can't help that you feel like any statement I made on the subject was directed at you. Not everything is about you, understand?

To avoid any confusion for you, here's what I'll do in the future, if I see a topic to post a reply to and you've already posted to the thread: I'll put a large disclaimer at the beginning of my post stating my response isn't directed at you. Unless, of course, I'm quoting you. This way I can post freely without you wrongly assuming that I must be posting about you.

Have a good day!

[renee819]

That's OK David. I don't hold grudges and God knows your heart better than I or even you. That settles nothing, but I guess some things can't be settled.

Hold on to God.

[n david]

Originally Posted by renee819

That's OK David. I don't hold grudges and God knows your heart better than I or even you. That settles nothing, but I guess some things can't be settled.

Hold on to God.

You're right, God does know my heart, you do not. You can continue to insinuate that I'm lying or that I wrote something else or meant something else, but that doesn't matter to me in the grand scheme of things. Both God and I know what I posted, why, and that it was not directed at you. Sometimes you just have to understand not everything is about you.

[kclee4jc]

I just think everyone needs a good ol'fashion "prayin through" !

Seriously idk what is up with this forum in the last couple days but ppl are actin like 2 yr olds.