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Old 10-25-2013, 12:54 PM
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:05 PM
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Re: Strange Fire Conference

Hopefully, we can now go back to character assassination of MacArthur. That seems to be a vastly more acceptable and enjoyable endeavor by most on the forum.

How about that MacArthur? We have "false prophet" offered, do I hear any other bid?
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:06 PM
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I don't know of anyone that believes going to the Doctor is a sin. Sounds like this is more about being inflammatory than having an honest discussion.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:10 PM
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Well, let's just see what your position is on those who teach doctrines which result in the suffering and/or death of innocent infants and children. Is such a doctrine evil and ungodly?

I don't expect a straight answer from you. I expect you to revert, as you've done repeatedly now, to your 'apostolic' defense of those in your 'apostolic' sect.

youve been around long enough to know that I will call out members of my own "sect" as heritics. stating otherwise on your part is done knowing what you are saying is false.


now you are lying about me. Once again you deflect and continue to make this all about seekerman. you arent funny.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:12 PM
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No, folks like you who will not confront their error is what enables them to preach their ungodly and evil doctrine which results in innocent infants and children to suffer and die.
Why do I need to confront something I've never experienced? In all the churches I've been a part of, I have never heard this "doctrine" you describe. Oh sure, I've read your claims here, but you're hardly a reliable or trustworthy source.

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I've found that witnessing individually to people who are involved in such ministries to be the most effective way to battle it. I've been somewhat successful in helping them escape the 'apostolic' movement which practices such error. You cannot count on the ministry in the cult-like sect to openly challenge the error..... I give you the reverend epley as an example.
So then why are you anonymously bashing Bro. Epley and these unnamed ministers you claim preach this "doctrine."

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I use the reverend epley as a poster child of those in the sect. He's typical, choosing to label those who aren't part of their little sect as false prophets but turn a blind eye to the false prophets within their own little group.
MacArthur is a false prophet.

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You asked me, I answered. I did expect you to disbelieve me, but I hoped you would take me at my word. It really doesn't matter, either that is practiced among reverend epley's group or it's not. I know it is. And I know that, hypocritically, folks like reverend epley, and now it seems some on this very forum, choose to ignore the evil and ungodly practice in favor of attempting to justify error.
You hide in anonymity, claim to know and have confronted unnamed preachers, claim to know where the burial sites are for the people murdered by the "doctrine" preached by these unnamed ministers, but refuse to name these ministers or even say where the mass graves are located.....then you hope I would take you at your word?

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Pointing out the reverend epley's error isn't character assassination. The reverend epley has absolutely no problem in pointing out error and false prophets in other groups which isn't part of the little sect he fellowships with. But you'll never see him openly challenge those in his own group. The reverend epley has no problem with character assassination with those who aren't part of his little sect, but that's acceptable with you and others because they're folks with whom you disagree. Disagreement isn't character assassination, pointing out that others are false prophets while ignoring the false prophets in your little sect is hypocritical though.
The way you have addressed this is textbook character assassination.

"Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation"

Every time you put "reverend" in apostrophe's (which is incorrect anyway) you do so deliberately to try and question his credibility. Every post you've written here has been a deliberate and sustained attempt to try to destroy Bro. Epley's credibility and reputation.

You say "Disagreement isn't character assassination." What you have posted isn't just a disagreement. Disagreement doesn't impugn a man's character, integrity and ministry.

I noticed you quoted, but didn't answer a question I asked you. Have you been with Bro. Epley when he has visited these ministers? Have you physically been present at every service, or wherever he has been with these ministers? Because if you have not, then you cannot claim to know whether or not he's confront this "doctrine."

Just because he doesn't play your little game and post a statement online, doesn't mean he hasn't confronted it.
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youve been around long enough to know that I will call out members of my own "sect" as heritics. stating otherwise on your part is done knowing what you are saying is false.


now you are lying about me. Once again you deflect and continue to make this all about seekerman. you arent funny.
You didn't answer. Here it is again....

Concerning the doctrines which result in the suffering and/or death of innocent infants and children. Is such a doctrine evil and ungodly?
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:13 PM
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MacArthur is a false prophet.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:16 PM
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Why do I need to confront something I've never experienced? In all the churches I've been a part of, I have never heard this "doctrine" you describe. Oh sure, I've read your claims here, but you're hardly a reliable or trustworthy source.
PM 'reverend' epley. Ask him. See what he says if he knows of examples of what I'm speaking of.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:24 PM
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You didn't answer. Here it is again....

Concerning the doctrines which result in the suffering and/or death of innocent infants and children. Is such a doctrine evil and ungodly?
dude, im not playing your stupid game.

you are the one that is bringing up nonsense so you can slam Elder Epley because you dont like him. THis isnt your first round of insulting him.

the only thing that needs to be spoken out against is your small insulting demeaning attitude.
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dude, im not playing your stupid game.

you are the one that is bringing up nonsense so you can slam Elder Epley because you dont like him. THis isnt your first round of insulting him.

the only thing that needs to be spoken out against is your small insulting demeaning attitude.
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