Can God Pray? - Page 5

jfrog · #41 11-05-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

Yes God can and did pray as our example and no it did not make Him any less God.

Yay a man not afraid to answer the question... God prayed. And if god prayed then god also said I do nothing of myself... Quite strange to have a god that claims to not be able to do anything by himself don't ya think?

Praxeas · #42 11-05-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Yay a man not afraid to answer the question... God prayed. And if god prayed then god also said I do nothing of myself... Quite strange to have a god that claims to not be able to do anything by himself don't ya think?

No because Once again rather than admit we don't believe He was merely God the fact is we believe he was God incarnate..God and Man, you make it seem as though that is not a fact

jfrog · #43 11-05-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

No because Once again rather than admit we don't believe He was merely God the fact is we believe he was God incarnate..God and Man, you make it seem as though that is not a fact

Yea I am making it seem that way but that's only to provoke some of these here to think about what they are saying. So prax I want to ask you, does the person that is god do nothing of himself or does he do things of himself?

seekerman · #44 11-05-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

It was The PERSON who is God (God is not His name) INCARNATE or become human that prayed. He prayed because He has a Human nature

Does this mean God was praying to God?

seekerman · #45 11-05-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Yay a man not afraid to answer the question... God prayed. And if god prayed then god also said I do nothing of myself... Quite strange to have a god that claims to not be able to do anything by himself don't ya think?

God prayed to God? Your answer is ambiguous.

jfrog · #46 11-05-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

God prayed to God? Your answer is ambiguous.

? I didn't answer. I was discussing what the previous guy meant

seekerman · #47 11-05-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

? I didn't answer. I was discussing what the previous guy meant

Oh, I misunderstood. Sorry.

votivesoul · #48 11-05-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul

God may take counsel after His own will, may take/make an oath against Himself, and make, in the command sense, a petition or plead with His people or even the rest of the world, but otherwise, no, God does not and has no need to, ever pray, as we think of it.

Then again, if we are only using the word God as the Sovereign Divine Being and Creator of All Eternity, does my answer stand.

If, however, we are using the word generically as the English equivalent to the generic Hebrew elohim, then my answer may vary.

I am Oneness (not Modalist nor Sabellian--perhaps Servetian, if a label had to be applied, though I don't care for labels, as such), Apostolic.

God, as it appears we are using the word, does not pray, even cannot pray.

Jesus, the Son of God, prayed to His Father, God the Father.

jfrog · #49 11-05-2013, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul

I am Oneness (not Modalist nor Sabellian--perhaps Servetian, if a label had to be applied, though I don't care for labels, as such), Apostolic.

God, as it appears we are using the word, does not pray, even cannot pray.

Jesus, the Son of God, prayed to His Father, God the Father.

If god didn't pray doesn't that mean Jesus isn't god since Jesus prayed?

jfrog · #50 11-05-2013, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Does this mean God was praying to God?

That is exactly what prax believes. I'm sure he will elaborate though and say that the person that is god prayed through his human nature to the person who is god by his divine nature. So yes God prayed to himself according to prax but that isn't a logical problem in his doctrine. It may be some other kind of problem but it isn't a logical one.