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Old 11-06-2013, 12:37 AM
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Re: Can God Pray?

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If god didn't pray doesn't that mean Jesus isn't god since Jesus prayed?
From your post God is Jesus?

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I do not conflate the man Christ Jesus with God the Father.

I do not attribute any deity to the man Christ Jesus, only to God the Father, which was and is in Christ.

The Father, in His identity, is unique and distinct, though revealed and made known, through His Son, Jesus Christ.

The fullness of God the Father's deity was in Christ.

I do not say Jesus is the Father, nor do I call Jesus either Father or God.

I do not believe God became a human, as in, He transubstantiated His nature from Eternal Divine Spirit to Temporal Human Flesh.

I am familiar with all the Scriptural arguments against my position. I also know the Scriptural arguments in favor of my position. I really don't like to debate, prove, or disprove in relation to what I believe, vis a vis, what others believe. I am open to learning and being corrected if my understanding is faulty. But I'm also open to leaving behind any tradition of man in the face of apparent TRUTH.

Like others, I appreciate the freedom to develop my understanding without judgment or prejudice. As with all other believers, to my own Master I rise or fall. If, in my understanding of who my God is, I fall, He is able to help me stand again, as long as I repent, maintain humility and meekness, and confess my fault.

Therefore, I tend to merely leave the discussion at this:

Matthew 11:27,

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Since the Lord Jesus said no one knows the Son, except His Father, I believe it is within reason to realize many will come to varying Christotological conclusions which will inevitably differ from one another.

Additionally, since the Lord Jesus said no one knows the Father without special revelation by and from the Son, I recognize that without revelation, correct theological knowledge of God will be lacking. I also recognize that no matter the purity of the revelation, it will come to us earthen vessels through a limited, sometimes carnal, and most certainly human, filter, thus making our attempts at explaining and sharing what we believe to be true quite difficult, if not almost impossible, at least for many.

Finally, I do not believe salvation is first and foremost dependent upon one's thorough understanding of the Incarnation. The litmus test for salvation is obeying the Gospel. Notwithstanding, some can stray so far away from what the Bible teaches, that they embrace another Jesus (examples would be teaching that Jesus and Buddha are both Christs, or that the story of Jesus is merely a re-telling of Vishnu/Krishna or Mithras).
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