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Old 11-07-2013, 03:02 PM
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Re: Can God Pray?

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Hmmm. Jesus said,
"even as we are one"

"I in them, and thou in me"
English isn't all that difficult. I and thou. Not "even as I am one". Nor, "I in them, and I in me". Words have meanings. The term "we" is a PLURAL pronoun. In addition the "I" and the "thou" create an "I and thou" relationship. "I" is a "personal pronoun" denoting the speaker. The word "thou" is a "second person pronoun" denoting one being spoken to. It's real simple... if one believes the words.

There is a clear ontological distinction between the mind and person of the man Jesus Christ... and the Father. However, these two are one. In Jesus, God became a man... and that man was also God.

It is written,
2 Corinthians 5:19
King James Version (KJV)
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Notice it doesn't say, "God was Christ". But rather, "God was IN Christ". Who was Christ? The man Jesus who prayed to His Father. Who was in this Christ? God.


It's crystal clear.
Yes, God was in Christ and He's in us also. God being in Christ makes Him no more God than it makes us God. You referenced the word "we" which indicates two somethings, in this case Jesus was referencing He and His Father and God. 'We are one' suggests that two somethings, which was Jesus and His Father and God, and they were in a unity. We're in a unity with the God and Father of Jesus,as Jesus and His brethren were. Jesus prayer contains several elements of this unity, being one. But not the same entity.
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