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Old 11-08-2013, 02:34 AM
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Re: Can God Pray?

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You are limiting the PERSON of God based on your philosophy which seems to be based on what you believe Persons are or can or can't be. What is that based on if not human experience?

Im not looking for a benefit. I don't claim this is some benefit we can all experience.
Yes my philosophy of natures and persons is based on experience and logic and answering the hard questions. I don't deny that because there's not a better way to obtain a philosophy. I also don't deny that your philosophy is possible. I did at one time and i was wrong about that.

I would like to elaborate about your philosophy though. I would like to elaborate about its origins. Your philosophy originated by trying to answer a hard question. That question in general form is, "How can I have two totally different things and actually have them be one thing?". Well the answer is soo simple it might suprise you. The way to make two totally different things be one thing is by grouping. We simply need a word for the group and then we can refer to any set of things as a single thing. In fact in grouping we can group together any 2 or more things we like no matter how different or how similar. In fact we can even have groups of one.

So Prax actually asked how do I have one thing that is God and another thing that is man and actually have them be the same thing? His answer was by grouping. He grouped the thing that was God together in the same group as the thing that was man. He then needed a label for the group and he decided to settle on the term person so that he could confound and hide that his solution was simply a solution by grouping.

So please rememeber that anytime Prax uses the word person, in his vocabulary it is simply a term for the grouping of what he calls beings.

Prax also makes the claim that persons do things. This goes right along with the hiding of the grouping origins of his solution. In Prax's philosophy every action can more easily and naturally be associated first with what he terms a being and then by the method of grouping he logically extends that action to the group, what he has termed the "person".

FYI, I actually don't believe Prax intended his explanations to try and hide that they work because of the logic of grouping and nothing else. Instead I think he was tricked by it just as much as some of us. But I do think anyone that understands the basics of his person nature and being philosophy and reads and understands my contention that its simply an explanation by grouping will realize there's nothing more to it than an explanation by grouping.
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